Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jesse - Feb 01, 2008 6:11:09 am PST #4987 of 28343
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Kind of??


lisah - Feb 01, 2008 6:21:37 am PST #4988 of 28343
Punishingly Intricate

Kind of??

ummmm...well...we were playing mostly terrible country crossover hits from the 80s but, dang, some were pretty fun!


Hayden - Feb 01, 2008 6:48:31 am PST #4989 of 28343
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Man, Lisa! That's some kind of hairdo you're sporting there.


lisah - Feb 01, 2008 9:44:27 am PST #4990 of 28343
Punishingly Intricate

That's some kind of hairdo you're sporting there.

It's called the Cheap Wig + Hairspray!


Susan W. - Feb 01, 2008 11:08:53 am PST #4991 of 28343
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just set aside a romance by a debut author that's been getting raves all over the internets. It wasn't bad--the writing quality alone was better than 90% of what's out there. It's just that after a few chapters I wasn't really engrossed, so I went skimming ahead: aborted sex scene early on, check, lots of action because it's a spy story, check, consummation scene, check, one last big threat before they can live happily ever after, check.

When did I become so impossible to please? At the rate I'm going, I'll have nothing left but re-reading classics and waiting for new books from the five or ten living authors who can either surprise me or use formula in a way that feels delightfully classic instead of predictable and yawn-inducing. And I feel bad because I don't think I'm anything close to a perfect storyteller myself, and I don't want to be hard on other authors. I just can't seem to help it. I've become far too easily bored.

ETA I know I've grumped about stuff like this before, but it seems to be getting worse. This was a good book. A few years ago I would've loved it. It didn't have any of the historical errors or awkward writing that normally mark wallbangers for me. I just couldn't be bothered to care about the outcome of the story.


Toddson - Feb 01, 2008 11:32:13 am PST #4992 of 28343
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Susan, have you tried the Pink Carnation series? I started with the second because I found it at a second-hand bookstore, but I've enjoyed it immensely.


Susan W. - Feb 01, 2008 11:44:48 am PST #4993 of 28343
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I've heard good things about it but haven't read it yet, partly because I'm not usually that big of a fan of spy stories--I just tried this book because I'd seen it raved about so much on review blogs I trust.


Scrappy - Feb 01, 2008 11:46:30 am PST #4994 of 28343
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, that's the trouble with formula stuff. After one has read a lot of them, the formula begins to outweigh the story, no matter how good the writing is. You not only know how it's going to end, you know how it's going to get there. It can happen with series TV as well. If you have never seen an episode of Law & Order, and you see a good one, you might be drawn in by the storytelling and think it is incredible. If you have seen a lot of them, you won't be surprised and not knowing what's going to happen is part of what draws us into narrative, so it will never seem more than good.


Susan W. - Feb 01, 2008 11:56:59 am PST #4995 of 28343
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, the thing is, sometimes I don't mind the formula at all. I mean, the Sharpe books all follow the same pattern, and I don't care in the least. It's done well, I care about the characters, I'll probably learn some history (or at least get a more personal angle on something I know on a dry, academic level), and having some idea where it's going is a benefit rather than a downside.

I think part of the issue is that I tend to be bothered by romances with strong adventure/mystery elements, as opposed to adventure or mystery stories with strong romantic elements, which I'm all for. But with the former, I often feel the characters' and/or author's priorities are out of order--I'm like, "Dude, the Fate of Europe (or whatever the big important thing is) is in your hands! Angst about your Twoo Wuv later!"


beth b - Feb 01, 2008 12:01:36 pm PST #4996 of 28343
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

For me -- my tolerance for formula books depends on how long it has been since I have read one. I need a break, so I read something light. Works as long as I don't over indulge.