Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Sophia Brooks - May 15, 2006 9:23:02 am PDT #481 of 28644
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But... it is a good note!


erikaj - May 15, 2006 9:24:18 am PDT #482 of 28644
"Somewhere in this building is our talent." Toby Ziegler, my spirit animal

I would care a lot less if he didn't write so *much* every time, Corwood. Irving novels are commitments. Of course, the argument could be made I've gone slumming and ruined my attention span.


beth b - May 15, 2006 9:24:50 am PDT #483 of 28644
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Interesting I have read two books on that list Winter's Tale

and parts of

The Things They Carried

I love the pictures created in the first. I've read a number of times, and don't ever seem to keep a handle on the action. It is a very viseral reaction. Ditto the secondToo intense for me too read all at once, but really godd and true.

I might have finished on of the Rabbit books, but it didn't stick. ditto DeLillo. and there are others I started, but never got very far.

But I am always surprised and pleased when something that is in the cannon is liked by me.


Sophia Brooks - May 15, 2006 9:32:50 am PDT #484 of 28644
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Irving novels are commitments.

It is funny how different people are, because the Roth/Updike novels feel like a slog for me, while Irving just flies by.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 9:35:16 am PDT #485 of 28644
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is a phrase that will never win me over, I fear. There's only so much that clever wording can do to hide a great gaping lack of anything happening. It's very difficult for me to get into certain types of writing, because the writers don't give a shit about anything happening in their fiction, and it is very hard to get past the lack of anything happening. Things happening is pretty much how I understand the concept of fiction.

To be fair, plenty of things happen in Confederacy of Dunces and it does have a plot. I just thought Matt's plot description missed the appeal of O'Toole's writing.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 9:36:22 am PDT #486 of 28644
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

while Irving just flies by.

I find Irving very easy to read also. But then I feel that way about Roth. And there are certainly other novelists (like Pynchon) that I find to be sloggy.

In Jesse's provocatively equable maxim: Different people like different shit.


Strega - May 15, 2006 9:38:43 am PDT #487 of 28644

I think I got about halfway through Confederacy of Dunces and then got distracted and never felt like giving it another try.

I liked the first Irving I read, felt meh about the second, and after the third I hated him violently because I felt like it was the same damn thing every time.

And to echo Corwood, I think there's a difference between "the action is internal" and "nothing happens." But YThingsHappenMV.


Hayden - May 15, 2006 9:43:01 am PDT #488 of 28644
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I don't know why I don't care more for Irving. There's other novelists who have as few notes in their repertoire that really work for me, like, well, I can't think of any American minimalist novelists I like (short stories are another matter, though), but there's Jose Saramago and Beckett from the European side.


Hayden - May 15, 2006 9:44:31 am PDT #489 of 28644
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Different people like different shit.

True and poetic.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 9:49:17 am PDT #490 of 28644
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

True and poetic.

It makes me laugh at myself every time I think of Jesse's maxim because in the face of such wisdom I still instinctively rail, "Nuh uh! The shit I like is the BEST!"