Man, you just get darker and darker, and the weird thing is, your aura? Beige.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - May 15, 2006 7:26:59 am PDT #464 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You'll have to bring your own liver, boychik.

I never graduated to organ meat.

I've always felt I should read A Confederacy of Dunces, but somehow never managed to work up the motivation to actually start reading.

It's funny! Not a spinach book.


erikaj - May 15, 2006 7:28:00 am PDT #465 of 28061
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I really thought it was hilarious, but sometimes the canon thing makes me twitch...trying to decide what America laughs at, or something. Of course, as a writing student, I heard the Toole story as a cautionary tale first.


Jessica - May 15, 2006 7:32:24 am PDT #466 of 28061
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

It's funny! Not a spinach book.

I only made it about 20 pages in. I'm sure it was supposed to be funny, but I just couldn't get into the writing style.


brenda m - May 15, 2006 7:33:56 am PDT #467 of 28061
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Jess is me.


erikaj - May 15, 2006 7:37:25 am PDT #468 of 28061
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I read it for A Boy. Good thing I liked the book. I always do that...I think if I read their books I'll know what they're thinking, and...bang. I'm widely read and single at thirty-two. Possibly, next time, tighter blouses instead?


Matt the Bruins fan - May 15, 2006 7:40:35 am PDT #469 of 28061
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Slacker idealogue raging impotently against the State of Affairs while enduring a surreal job search doesn't appeal to me that much - I had a roommate who lived that story, and it wasn't funny to watch.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 7:41:37 am PDT #470 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but sometimes the canon thing makes me twitch

It never bugs me because I always see it as fluid. A kind of cultural conversation rather than a definitive list. There's no definitive list, but the exercise forces people to think about what they value and why. Who cares what the ranking is? But I love to hear the cases being made and disputed.

Speaking of Zadie Smith, she has an interesting piece on Kafka here.

I'm mulling over her claim here:

All novelists who are worth anything at all resist a version of life as it has been presented to them. What Flaubert meant by bourgeois life is not what his age meant by bourgeois life, and what Austen meant by the word "woman" was subtly at odds with the usage of that word in her time.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 7:42:47 am PDT #471 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Slacker idealogue raging impotently against the State of Affairs while enduring a surreal job search doesn't appeal to me that much

It's not so much about the plot as the tone and the characters and the place.


Sophia Brooks - May 15, 2006 7:55:48 am PDT #472 of 28061
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that you might really enjoy Marilynne Robinson's books. She has a lovely way with language and a stateliness that indicates (to me, natch) that her books will last.

Thanks Corwood.

The list has got me thinking, too, about the modern writers of non-genre fiction that I DO like, who don't really make any of these lists, and what they are considered-- John Irving, Alice Walker, Barbara Kingsolver, Alice Hoffman and Tom Robbins. I also like Toni Morrison. Perhaps it is a class thing-- I don't know.


DavidS - May 15, 2006 8:08:39 am PDT #473 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The list has got me thinking, too, about the modern writers of non-genre fiction that I DO like, who don't really make any of these lists, and what they are considered-- John Irving, Alice Walker, Barbara Kingsolver, Alice Hoffman and Tom Robbins. I also like Toni Morrison. Perhaps it is a class thing-- I don't know.

I noticed that Irving wasn't anywhere on the list, and I'm wondering if he's lost critical cachet by being too popular/readable/something?

Alice Hoffman is also an interesting case to me. There's always been some critical resistance to her, and I do think it's because she floats in her own space that's sorta genre and plot driven and sorta literary. I do enjoy her books, though.

Alice Walker and Tom Robbins get no literary respect for differing reasons. Alice is seen as too woo woo and stridently dogmatic. Robbins is seen as sub-Pynchon for pot-heads.