All right, no one's killing folk today, on account of our very tight schedule.

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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - May 14, 2006 8:42:00 pm PDT #440 of 28095
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How to build a canon NY Times poll on the greatest work of American fiction of the last 25 years.

I'm not surprised that Beloved won. It seemed the most universally acclaimed book since Gravity's Rainbow. I was a little surprised that (a) that's the only Toni Morrison book among the top choices and (b) that so many of Philip Roth's later works were cited.

Well, not entirely surprised since I love Roth, but I haven't kept up with his career at all and it's nice to see that he and Don Delillo have both been cranking out the quality work with regularity. Corwood will be happy to see that Cormac gets his props too. Interesting that Housekeeping got cited. I knew people liked it, but I didn't realize that it had that kind of consensus. Also pleased to see Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried sustaining its reputation.


Jon B. - May 15, 2006 2:35:10 am PDT #441 of 28095
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I would have found it more useful if they'd asked each voter to pick 5 or 10 books, and not just 1.


Hayden - May 15, 2006 5:37:30 am PDT #442 of 28095
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

People voted for Cormac McC's Border Trilogy over Blood Meridian! That's some kind of insane troll logic.


Strega - May 15, 2006 5:41:46 am PDT #443 of 28095

Beloved is the only thing on that list I've read. Of course, I kept thinking, "What about -- oh, right, that's not by an American." I am a little surprised that there's no Auster in there, though.


Sophia Brooks - May 15, 2006 5:46:18 am PDT #444 of 28095
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Beloved is also the only book on that list I have read. But Philip Roth seems to drive me bugfuck, so I guess that is unsurprising.


flea - May 15, 2006 5:53:16 am PDT #445 of 28095
information libertarian

I was stunned by how many of the top choices were by novelists in their 70s. I don't read a lot of literary fiction in general, but it seems to me that there might be some good younger writers out there who got missed? It seemed like a lot of these guys (Roth, DeLillo, Updike)were canonized longer ago than 25 years, and their newer works got put on the list by default. I would love to know the age/demographic of the people surveyed.

For some reason Toni Morrison seems a much more modern writer to me than Roth or Updike.


brenda m - May 15, 2006 5:54:01 am PDT #446 of 28095
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm not a Roth fan, but The Things They Carried is on my top ten, for sure. (Hec, I think you and I have had that conversation before.)


Sophia Brooks - May 15, 2006 5:58:29 am PDT #447 of 28095
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I forgot to add that John Updike drives me MORE bugfuck than Philip Roth. @$#%! Rabbit.

I think this may be why I was an unsuccessful English major. I wanted to LIKE everything I read. But seriously, I would much rather read Thomas Hardy (whom everyone else seems to hate) or Theodore Dreiser than either Updike or Roth.

I also think that the emergance of "literary fiction" has caused the demise of many novels which are actually enjoyable. I mean, Shakespeare and Dickens and even Hemingway, I think, were writing for an audience who wanted to enjoy their works in some way. I feel like Roth, DeLillo, Updike et als are writing to "create literature".


Strega - May 15, 2006 6:08:01 am PDT #448 of 28095

I would love to know the age/demographic of the people surveyed.

The respondents are listed here. Or at least, those are the people invited to respond. The accompanying article (and wow, A.O. Scott makes Stephen Hunter seem terse) says that not everyone replied, and that some who did reply refused to name a single book.


erikaj - May 15, 2006 6:08:51 am PDT #449 of 28095
Always Anti-fascist!

Wrod. I'd put Price's "Freedomland" or something by Lethem on that list, but the way McCarthy writes gives me a headache, so I'm not unbiased(and no, not "Pelecanos re karoti" enough to insist that "Hard Revolution" get a slot...I know genre as cat vomit. But I think history will be kind to that bit of cat vomit in the way Chandler is now art.) I've read about half the list and even as a Roth fangirl, I'd only include "Pastoral"...that was deep. But the NYT's crush is bigger than mine. I also prefer "The Bluest Eye" to "Beloved" but maybe that says more about me than about Morrison. I've read about half the list...not having a life will do that for you. Have not felt strong enough for Delillo yet...is that valid or my "Aw, shucks. Went to state college," inferiority thing? "Mystic River", "The Poisonwood Bible"