Buffy: How was school today? Dawn: The usual. A big square building filled with boredom and despair. Buffy: Just how I remember it.

'The Killer In Me'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2007 9:18:19 pm PDT #3733 of 28200
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm pretty sure I haven't read Intervention. But I am now remembering the Exile, and I liked them much too.

It's cool that Wikipedia lets me go back and visit.


Gris - Aug 13, 2007 9:20:11 pm PDT #3734 of 28200
Hey. New board.

For those wondering, Under the Rose is just as addictive as Secret Society Girl. I'm not sure it's as good, but it definitely grabs you.

I'm pretty sure I haven't read Intervention.

It's pretty hard to find, though good library systems probably have it. I read it first on a computer - I actually learned to navigate the rather intimidating book-ahemming world (IRC Fserves... shudder) JUST for that book, after searching every used bookstore in the Pasadena area. Finally found it on a NYC visit.


Volans - Aug 14, 2007 10:41:39 am PDT #3735 of 28200
move out and draw fire

Nice review, 'suela. I keep meaning to add book reviews to my internet presence, but alas...

Anyway, one comment early in your review makes for a good prompt, I think:

A lot of [apocalyptic] novels, of course, presume nuclear annihilation--in fact I am aware of very little apocalyptic fiction written before the development of the bomb....

Me either. Lovecraft, maybe? Call of Cthulhu is more how it's just that the stars aren't right, otherwise we'd be all apocalypted. Anyone?


Ginger - Aug 14, 2007 11:17:57 am PDT #3736 of 28200
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Earlier apocalyptic fiction was more like the book that gave us the word: descriptions of the last days, when Christ returns, rather than . There are a lot of sinners writhing in agony.

I know there were a few before WWII. There was Mary Shelley's The Last Man, anyway. The earliest novel I can think of in that vein is Daniel Defoe's Journal of a Plague Year, but that was based on an actual apocalypse. Certainly during the plague years many writers thought the world was coming to an end. Also, didn't the robots kill all the people in Kark Capek's "R.U.R"?

I think it took WWII for people to believe that all of mankind could be wiped out.


Strega - Aug 14, 2007 12:45:40 pm PDT #3737 of 28200

The War of the Worlds and The Poison Belt are pretty apocalyptic-y.

based on an actual apocalypse
This would be the best subtitle ever.


Volans - Aug 14, 2007 12:53:02 pm PDT #3738 of 28200
move out and draw fire

I mentioned to someone today that the Rocky Horror lyric "river of night's dreaming" is the title of a short story (that long pre-dates the musical), and he asked if there was a book named Morpheus Flow. I don't think there is, but that's a great title.


Connie Neil - Aug 14, 2007 1:04:30 pm PDT #3739 of 28200
brillig

the Rocky Horror lyric "river of night's dreaming" is the title of a short story

Thank you, I had no idea!


-t - Aug 14, 2007 1:25:42 pm PDT #3740 of 28200
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Day of the Triffids = post-apocalyptic, yes? Though it was written after WWII, I think, so possibly not relevant.


Ginger - Aug 14, 2007 1:42:23 pm PDT #3741 of 28200
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Ooh, The War of the Worlds. I should have thought of that. It does have that last-minute bacterial reprieve.

Day of the Triffids goes with all those other early '50s "this is the way the world ends" books. J.G. Ballard practically made a career of destroying the world in different ways for a while.


Typo Boy - Aug 14, 2007 3:45:16 pm PDT #3742 of 28200
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm there was a sort of post-apocalyptic sci-fi war novel that was published pre WWII, may pre WWI. It was sort of a WW-I that just goes on forever and spreads throughout the world. No nukes needed because no civilian territory left to grow food on, no place free of the horrors of war, disease spreading everywhere as it does in the case of war. Also the soldier all hate the civilians because it was the civilans that created the war. So it looks like the military on all sides will get together and create a giant military dictatorship based on hatred and contempt for civilians. Very chilling, prose kind of leaded, characters two dimensional, world building frighteningly convincing. Based on actual experience of Crimean war or WW I?

Wish I knew the title or author.