The Girl Genius comics [link] also give good steampunk--at least, how I understand steampunk
Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.
'Objects In Space'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 2:36:24 pm PDT #2997 of 28195
brillig
beth b - Jun 22, 2007 2:39:59 pm PDT #2998 of 28195
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
Looks like Rook is on netflix
P.M. Marc - Jun 22, 2007 2:45:43 pm PDT #2999 of 28195
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
If you already have a hate-on for say New Yorker short stories and think it's a circle jerk of pale academic writing, then you're going to welcome a big broadside blast.
All that says to me, really, is that those big broadside blasts are preaching to the choir.
I will note that big broadside blasts in fandom frequently make me want to hit people and tell them to stop being on my side, you're making my side look stupid.
Steph L. - Jun 22, 2007 2:48:47 pm PDT #3000 of 28195
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I have always seen cyberpunk this way:
Beth, I think I love you. Your explanation made it the furthest over my moat of non-understanding.
sumi - Jun 22, 2007 2:49:08 pm PDT #3001 of 28195
Art Crawl!!!
Well, I think that they are -- I mean, mostly we're talking a small(ish) circle of people who believe similar things and strongly enough that they decide to codify it. But it's really that gang that all goes to the same pub/cafe after spending the day at the studio.
DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 2:58:16 pm PDT #3002 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I don't think manifestos succeed as persuasion. It's not a matter of preaching to anybody.
I think they just clarify points of divergence. It's a kind of mapping - the argument isn't happening on the level of individual discourse. By positing a movement you're creating an alternate institution to the ones you dislike.
Early British punk crystalized around things like Malcolm McLaren's t-shirt which articulated one aesthetic against an older aesthetic. Pink Floyd - Out. Eddie Cochran - In. etc.
Also, they usually don't happen unless the art under attack is as dull as the French academic painting which preceded the Impressionists. (Who did not have a manifesto, but did cause a few riots.)
beth b - Jun 22, 2007 3:10:31 pm PDT #3003 of 28195
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
Thank you, Steph. It is nice to know when you've been able to help
Volans - Jun 22, 2007 3:18:25 pm PDT #3004 of 28195
move out and draw fire
I love Nutty and her spicy brains and well-aimed foot.
9/11 in its planning, execution and politics seemed like it came straight out of a Bruce Sterling novel to me.
I agree, and this is another reason why we should get those evil-doers. No one deserves Bruce Sterling! No one!
DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 3:22:26 pm PDT #3005 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
No one deserves Bruce Sterling! No one!
Awww, man, why you gotta hate on Bruce? He even answered one of my emails once.
Volans - Jun 22, 2007 3:28:41 pm PDT #3006 of 28195
move out and draw fire
Well, that's cool of him. But I have never enjoyed one of his books, and tend to finish them only when trapped on a trans-Atlantic flight. I find him a bit pompous.