Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2007 6:28:38 am PDT #2848 of 28176
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I would so dig that HP ending.

JK Rowling would be living like Salman Rushdie used to if she went that route. She'd probably need more protection, actually.


megan walker - Jun 15, 2007 6:55:41 am PDT #2849 of 28176
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I can't tell if Agatha Christie is brilliantly skewering the attitudes of the British at the time, or is so steeped in that culture that she doesn't even notice.

I'd say the latter. I love AC (and have a complete faux-leather set I collected in a monthly book club through high school and into college!), but yeah, her books aren't exactly PC and she often "cheats" in the whodunits.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2007 7:17:34 am PDT #2850 of 28176
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I vote with Megan. And I hate the cheaterliness. But when she sticks to the detective's POV, I like her storytelling better.


Beverly - Jun 15, 2007 8:52:16 am PDT #2851 of 28176
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I keep being shocked by the racism and classism in them. I can't tell if Agatha Christie is brilliantly skewering the attitudes of the British at the time, or is so steeped in that culture that she doesn't even notice.

Same thing happened to me with my vintage Nancy Drews. It shocked me so badly I packed them away. I was going to sell them, but inertia borne of not wanting to pass along books containing such attitudes (and okay, pure laziness) has so far prevented me.


megan walker - Jun 15, 2007 8:58:47 am PDT #2852 of 28176
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I don't think Agatha Christie mysteries are as bad as early Nancy Drews (although I suppose it depends what year series you have as they went through many incarnations for precisely that reason).


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2007 9:05:29 am PDT #2853 of 28176
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't think Agatha Christie mysteries are as bad as early Nancy Drews (although I suppose it depends what year series you have as they went through many incarnations for precisely that reason).

On the other hand, I think Nancy Drew at least avoided using the n-word in one of the titles. That one is probably my favorite Christie book (not that I've read a lot of them), and pretty atypical for her from what I gather.


Kathy A - Jun 15, 2007 9:09:41 am PDT #2854 of 28176
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm trying to think of other mass-market (as opposed to "literature")books I've read that were written in the 1930s to compare on the race issue, and the only ones I can think of are the Little House books, in which Wilder only encounters African-Americans once (the doctor in The Little House on the Prairie), and views Indians in a much more sympathetic light than her mother saw them. Her opinions on Indians were obviously shaped by the fact that she was on the verge of the frontier most of her life, and sensed the passing of what had gone before as it was changing throughout her childhood.


Toddson - Jun 15, 2007 9:10:48 am PDT #2855 of 28176
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I've read mysteries from the '20s and '30s - Dorothy Sayers, John Dickson Carr, among others - and I do remember reading some things that made me cringe. And John Buchan ("The Thirty-Nine Steps") ... eesh.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2007 9:19:06 am PDT #2856 of 28176
I look more rad than Lutheranism

On the other hand, I think Nancy Drew at least avoided using the n-word in one of the titles.

Yeah, but then there was The Mystery of the Missing Mick, which didn't go over too well with the Irish population.


erikaj - Jun 15, 2007 9:21:45 am PDT #2857 of 28176
Always Anti-fascist!

I remember some cheesy dialect in some of the ones I got.