Please...Wesley...why can't I stay?

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


-t - Nov 01, 2021 12:25:32 pm PDT #27145 of 28074
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I found re-reading over the last week or whatever very rewarding, I had forgotten a lot! I'm into early Penric now and I had forgotten a lot of this, too

I do feel better about the death magic question that was bothering me before. Although I still wish there was a little more explanation in Penric's musings on despair and grace - I feel like I almost get it but not quite. Maybe if I finish rereading and give it another go I'll understand better...


sumi - Nov 02, 2021 7:43:04 pm PDT #27146 of 28074
Art Crawl!!!

My hold on The Gilded Edge by Catherine Prendergast came in! Super excited to read this.


meara - Nov 02, 2021 9:30:57 pm PDT #27147 of 28074

I had several golds come in on my ebooks and am trying to not read them this weekend and instead wait until next week when I’m on a plane and on vacation!


Toddson - Nov 03, 2021 8:38:53 am PDT #27148 of 28074
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The e-book of Cinnamon and Gunpowder is on sale at Amazon. It's good; took me a little while to get into it, but it has pirates, cooking, adventure and a good story.


Consuela - Nov 05, 2021 8:21:16 am PDT #27149 of 28074
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I really enjoy the Chalion books, but my pleasure is somewhat tempered by my new understanding that they are based on Spain under Ferdinand and Isabella, and the Roknari are stand-ins for the Moors. So if you look at it that way, that's ... less awesome. One hates to think of the Quintarians as analogues for the Spanish Inquisition, but that's structurally what they are. And there's not much sympathy for the Roknari perspective, including the fact that the text itself shows the Roknari are theologically incorrect: the Bastard is a god.

In other news, I have found a podcast that goes deep on Tolkein: it's doing The Silmarillion chapter by chapter, and there are several hundred episodes. I think I have enough to cover my dogwalking for the next couple of years.


dcp - Nov 05, 2021 8:52:52 am PDT #27150 of 28074
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Have you read The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay?

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-t - Nov 05, 2021 9:02:18 am PDT #27151 of 28074
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The historical basis does bother me some, Consuela, and that is one reason I would be really interested in seeing what happens next in Chalion. I really like some of the things Bujold did in her worldbuilding to separate the World of the Five Gods from historical Europe, like swapping north and south and expunging the Roman Empire entirely (I feel like the difference have gotten more pronounced and apparent as the series has gone on) and I hope she would be similarly thoughtful with a closer look at the Roknari (who are also, per Bujold, somewhat based on Vikings although both about as much as Barrayar is based on Klingons, you know?). It also seems clear that while the Quadrenes are objectively incorrect about the Bastard (although, honestly, I am not entirely convinced of that, either, he certainly has demonic qualities, no?) the gods may not much care about that. Which would be interesting to see spelled out. While my most recent re-read clarified some of this stuff for me, it definitely left me *more* uncertain about why Forno the Fairly Wise was able to successfully call for a death miracle against the Golden General who was apparently beloved by the Father and not already bound for sundering and I would like to think Bujold has also thought about that.


-t - Nov 05, 2021 9:13:48 am PDT #27152 of 28074
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There's a lot less of that uneasiness with The Hallowed Hunt and the Penric stories than with the actual set-in-Chalion novels. Which I suspect may be at least part of why she has gone that direction.


Consuela - Nov 05, 2021 9:38:25 am PDT #27153 of 28074
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Have you read The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay?

Oh, yes, and that book is Exhibit 1 in Reasons Why Consuela Doesn't Read Kay Anymore. Although my rage at that book has far more to do with his narrative techniques and fondness for the Gotcha than it does with the actual subject matter. It's been so long since I read it I don't know if it handled the historical situation with any respect or delicacy.


Consuela - Nov 05, 2021 9:38:31 am PDT #27154 of 28074
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

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