What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Atropa - Mar 26, 2006 9:10:42 am PST #269 of 28061
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh, Tanith Lee. I have such issues with Tanith Lee, carefully marshalled and lined up ready to go. At the same time, fun!

Hugs the Blood Opera books close

I've haven't actually read a lot of Tanith Lee's fantasy. I will re-read the Blood Opera trilogy forever and ever, apparently.


Betsy HP - Mar 26, 2006 9:26:13 am PST #270 of 28061
If I only had a brain...

Tanith Lee has amazing prose style, and I will hear no (okay, I'll hear it, but crankily) criticism of her best work. She's prolific, so it isn't all her best work, but when she is on she is amazing. Also, homoerotic themes != fanfiction, not by a long shot.

Anne McCaffrey has explicitly passed on the her literary properties to her son. I stopped reading her years ago, so can't speak to the quality.

I am too sleepy to drag up examples, but there are several notorious (within the SF community) cases of Grand Old Men's later novels being written by somebody else. The difference with Anne McC, MZB, and Andre Norton is that they actually gave cover credit to their ghosts.


JoeCrow - Mar 26, 2006 5:36:48 pm PST #271 of 28061
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Tanith Lee's "Tales of the Flat Earth" series justifies any later artistic failure folks might percieve.

As for male writers and subsequent fanfic/posthumous series continuations, does Don Pendleton count? I dunno how much of that Mack Bolan fanbase is based on the character rather than the writer and how that affects our thesis. Or, for that matter, what our thesis actually was.

We had a thesis, right?


Typo Boy - Mar 26, 2006 5:43:54 pm PST #272 of 28061
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I agree with the love of Tanith Lee at her best. Also, even at her worst, Tanith Lee seldom had Mary Sues.

I suppose Azhrarn comes close as the ultimate evil/dom/cruel/super-sexy bastard. She did come close to a flaw one sometimes sees in fan fiction when after he died she obviously could not bear to let him stay dead. But on the other hand the resurrection was handled so well that you almost did not notice that letting him stay dead would have made for a better story I'm guessing that she fell in love with her own character in exactly the way that fan fiction writers often do.


Connie Neil - Mar 26, 2006 6:27:53 pm PST #273 of 28061
brillig

The difference with Anne McC, MZB, and Andre Norton is that they actually gave cover credit to their ghosts.

Indeed. I also figured Andre needed the ghosts because, being older than God, she wasn't quite up to the workload.


Volans - Mar 26, 2006 6:49:01 pm PST #274 of 28061
move out and draw fire

The first time I ran into an author falling in love with her character was Katherine Kurtz and King Kelson. The Deryni books hadn't been bad up unil the Kelson three, but even as an adolescent I recognized there was an unhealthy relationship there. At times it felt like the author was saying "If I can't have him, no one can!"


Connie Neil - Mar 26, 2006 7:35:48 pm PST #275 of 28061
brillig

At times it felt like the author was saying "If I can't have him, no one can!"

She did eventually marry him off to a nice girl who loves him. And who lives to the end of the book.


Calli - Mar 27, 2006 5:49:11 am PST #276 of 28061
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The first time I ran into an author falling in love with her character was Katherine Kurtz and King Kelson.

The first time I remember running into this was with Dorothy Sayers and Lord Peter. When we meet Harriet Vane, the Oxford educated, brunette, alto, mystery writer who got him? Possibly not that dissimilar to the Oxford educated, brunette, alto, mystery writer who invented him. Not that I begrudge her the fictional happy ending. I'm just sayin'.


Hayden - Mar 27, 2006 7:46:25 am PST #277 of 28061
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Acting as the angel of death for this thread, I just heard that Stanislaw Lem passed away.


Betsy HP - Mar 27, 2006 8:07:53 am PST #278 of 28061
If I only had a brain...

If you're the angel of death, did you kill him? And if so, can I interest you in some other promising candidates?