Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


-t - Apr 15, 2021 10:31:38 am PDT #26612 of 27939
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I haven't entirely figured that out, meara. Library is an excellent idea! I have old fines that have made me embarrassed to show my face there, but maybe I can, you know, pay the fines and get over that


Toddson - Apr 15, 2021 12:54:24 pm PDT #26613 of 27939
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Does your library have an amnesty period? I know some will have a time when you can return any book and not have to pay fines. I kind of gave up on the local library because I'd bring books back but the staff never checked them in and I'd get nailed with fines; I resorted to either taking out the card showing the due date and saying that gee, it must have fallen out or, on occasion, pulling the book off the shelf and waving it under their noses.


Calli - Apr 15, 2021 1:31:48 pm PDT #26614 of 27939
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

how do you (or can you even) recommend something that includes things which were unremarkable at the time but which would never fly now?

In my book group, I suggested Georgette Heyer's The Grand Sophy by saying something along the lines of, "This book is a good example of an author whose work was seminal in developing the Regency romance genre. However, she was writing in the first half of the 20th century, and her antisemitism is blatant. Given that, would you be interested in putting it on our reading schedule?"

We ended up reading it. And we had a good conversation about it, including tearing apart the racist, antisemitic tropes.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 15, 2021 2:51:33 pm PDT #26615 of 27939
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I will share that sometimes it has been a really long time at the library and they have changed computer systems, and they don’t remember your fines... Not saying that has happened....

I also now only get e-books and online audio books from the library, because then they just disappear and no fines.


meara - Apr 15, 2021 4:11:22 pm PDT #26616 of 27939

Yes I only do ebooks because they disappear, no fines!

Potentially they might also have those shows on Hoopla or Kanopy through the library?

And the movie I wish I could wholeheartedly recommend is Drop Dead Gorgeous. But even the last time I watched it a few years ago, the intellectually challenged brother in overalls bit is egregiously bad, even if it’s a very small part of the movie.


Dana - Apr 15, 2021 4:20:37 pm PDT #26617 of 27939
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Like Breakfast at Tiffany's. The Mickey Rooney part is so horrible that it's hard to divorce the rest of the movie from it.

(Brain wanted to type Mickey Rourke. Wrong Mickey, brain.)


Jesse - Apr 15, 2021 6:01:36 pm PDT #26618 of 27939
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm reminded of the icebreaker I was doing at work recently where they asked what decade you would want to live in, and I was in all all-women groups, and we all said the future, still! All of the past is garbage! (Of the US, at least -- one person did make a decent case for some point in ancient Egypt.)


meara - Apr 15, 2021 6:21:28 pm PDT #26619 of 27939

Exactly, Dana!!

And yes, Jesse—maybe there are great eras of other cultures that I would enjoy but western culture of the past couple Millenium? Heck no. Plus I want indoor plumbing.


Beverly - Apr 16, 2021 2:12:31 am PDT #26620 of 27939
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

and antibiotics! The two things I always demand when jumping to another time. I've tent camped a lot. I can deal with inconveniences. But flush toilets and antibiotics are a must.

A friend moved to England and got married and lived in a big house (bought on sale for the taxes) with a nationally registered rose garden which she and her DH maintained themselves. She bought a horse and took up point-to-point for a while, then got intrigued with bell ringing and became competent at it and eventually signed up to be called for any of about four or five churches when they needed bellringers. And sold the horse. All very intriguing.

Except the bell towers were all affiliated with, you know, *churches*, and before you know it she was doing regular Tuesday evenings as a "Street Pastor," I.E. accosting people on the sidewalk to talk about Jesus, and at that point she and I more or less drifted apart. But, you know, bell-ringer adjacent for a while, that was pretty neat.


Calli - Apr 16, 2021 3:52:58 am PDT #26621 of 27939
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

My office was part of the library for a while, and I’d walk by the new releases shelves twice a day, minimum. Very dangerous for my TBR pile. Plus, as university staff we can keep books through the end of the school year, even if we check them out in July. And with COVID, they suspended all due dates to keep people from coming to the library for anything minor, so I’ve had some books out for a year and a half now. If someone else asks for the book we do have to get it back within a week or pay a hefty fine, but that’s fair. They probably need it for a paper or something, and I just have it because it caught my eye.

I had a friend in high school who talked nostalgically about living in past eras. I pointed out that a) without modern antibiotics I wouldn’t have lived past four years and b) we had about 95% odds of being a peasant or slave in any of the time periods she mentioned, which did not sound great. But if I had to live in the past, Crete before the volcano turned Thera into Santorini could be interesting.