Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.

'Ariel'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


-t - Jun 27, 2020 7:59:13 am PDT #25970 of 28176
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I missed all that (not really on twitter) but now I have googled - that seems like a giant mess.

I like Rowland's books better than Bear's (have not read or honestly ever heard of Lynch before) so that colors my opinion.


Dana - Jun 27, 2020 8:03:58 am PDT #25971 of 28176
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I think "giant mess" is correct.


Consuela - Jun 27, 2020 8:05:28 am PDT #25972 of 28176
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have learned a bit more about the controversy: it appears that Scott Lynch may have been playing both women against each other. There are still significant issues with power differentials and Bear has in the past used her popularity & success against people, but it sounds like she may well be the victim of Lynch's manipulations nearly as much as Rowland is.

Or as someone on another forum put it: poly drama with an overlay of power & manipulation. I believe Rowland experienced what she claims, but I'm not convinced Bear is the only party here who should carry blame.

And it is interesting how much public attention is on Bear instead of Lynch...


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 27, 2020 8:22:06 am PDT #25973 of 28176
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It does seem that Bear is the one trying to smear other writers professionally by involving outside parties, so I think she deserves any pushback she's getting over it.


-t - Jun 27, 2020 8:28:42 am PDT #25974 of 28176
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That is pretty much where my googling got me, Consuela. Lynch seems to be the one who has explicitly acted badly in everyone's accounts even without getting into who was manipulated


Dana - Jun 27, 2020 8:47:03 am PDT #25975 of 28176
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I know plenty of people who've been hurt by Bear, but there also seem to be stories about people who've been hurt by Rowland too. I don't know anything about Lynch.


Amy - Jun 27, 2020 8:47:31 am PDT #25976 of 28176
Because books.

Yeah, giant mess seems to be on the nose.


-t - Jun 27, 2020 9:26:30 am PDT #25977 of 28176
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Thanks for that, Dana, I'll bear that in mind.


Consuela - Jun 27, 2020 10:13:00 am PDT #25978 of 28176
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I haven't read any of Rowland, but I find the podcast she cohosts, Be The Serpent, entirely charming. Sigh.


-t - Jun 27, 2020 10:33:37 am PDT #25979 of 28176
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I really like A Conspiracy of Truths and A Choir of Lies