Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

Buffy ,'Touched'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Gris - Jun 25, 2015 2:47:22 pm PDT #23418 of 28332
Hey. New board.

I didn't find anything in the second half offensive but it is certainly eye rolly on many levels. He could have done some interesting things with the time jump but...

Point being if you stop now you aren't missing anything amazing. The first half is worth the price of admission (and reminded me of this xkcd [link] which I know means I should read The Martian) but the second half... well I doubt I will read that part again.

It is like the entire Enders Game series in one book. Starts out awesome ends up ridiculous space fantasy that has pretensions of plausibility.


hippocampus - Jun 25, 2015 2:54:05 pm PDT #23419 of 28332
not your mom's socks.

The first half is worth the price of admission

Totally agree. It's a great 500 pages of fabulous disaster after fabulous disaster and people juryrigging survival.

Though I like the gliders (naturally) and the ring / eye is really cool

But

to have the cannibal berserker talk about bipolar/manic depression during the genetic selection debate and then to have the 5k year jump and suddenly there's a quarter of the ring genetically descended from that character marked red and gone politically feral? I am giving this the sideeye more than I've ever given any Stephenson the sideeye. I feel like we know where he stands at least in this book on nature vs. nurture.

also

is the Agent *never* explained?

wow I haven't ranted in so long.


hippocampus - Jun 25, 2015 3:33:51 pm PDT #23420 of 28332
not your mom's socks.

Also...

I thought one char. blew herself up at the end of the council of Eves, but her descendants are on the chart. So confused.

Ack.

Bought Sunil's story and a bunch of others as penance for my sins.


Katerina Bee - Jun 26, 2015 4:32:06 pm PDT #23421 of 28332
Herding cats for fun

Any suggestions for other Baba Yaga books?

"Enchantment" by Orson Scott Card. A Sleeping Beauty tale retold in Russian style. Baba Yaga gets a star turn as a witch so evil that even the twentieth century is scared of her. Really a good book.


dcp - Jun 26, 2015 4:51:32 pm PDT #23422 of 28332
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Any suggestions for other Baba Yaga books?

Peter Morwood's Prince Ivan

[link]


hippocampus - Jun 26, 2015 5:09:30 pm PDT #23423 of 28332
not your mom's socks.

Any suggestions for other Baba Yaga books?

Deathless, by Catherynne M. Valente


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 27, 2015 8:24:54 am PDT #23424 of 28332
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"Enchantment" by Orson Scott Card. A Sleeping Beauty tale retold in Russian style. Baba Yaga gets a star turn as a witch so evil that even the twentieth century is scared of her. Really a good book.

I'm afraid even Shakespeare-worthy writing would be beyond my ability to enjoy coming from a staunch advocate of criminalizing gay relationships who once stated that he regarded any government that would attempt to recognize same-sex marriage as a "mortal enemy" that he would act to destroy. The only contact I intend to have with Card ever again will be dancing on his grave while waving a rainbow flag.


Connie Neil - Jun 27, 2015 8:43:11 am PDT #23425 of 28332
brillig

Eh, he's a competent writer. If the book was good enough, I could see buying it used so he never saw a penny for it.


Beverly - Jun 27, 2015 9:07:09 am PDT #23426 of 28332
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Card's name on a book gives me the same knee jerk reaction dubya's face or voice does--insta-gag. Can't help it. Don't particularly want to.


Typo Boy - Jun 27, 2015 10:45:55 am PDT #23427 of 28332
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I have read and enjoyed some of Card's stuff. But some of the offhand social commentary slipped spoiled any enjoyment I had of the book. As in "I doubt high school kids are having anything like as much sex as people think. Oh, I'm sure there are a few girls who let themselves be used as a mattress but... " Stuff like that is scattered throughout the book. I can tune bad politics in an otherwise good book most of the time, but in this case in intruded too often and too prominently to let me enjoy it. Also it make stuff that otherwise would not ping me stand out. Frinstance he makes a big deal of how taboos vary from culture to culture. OK, great. But has to be more than coincidence that his example is that while the nudity taboo is still strong in our culture, whereas in the particular past culture the story focuses on a man publicly wearing women's clothes in much more shameful than public nudity.