Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Amy - Jan 14, 2014 2:49:55 pm PST #21892 of 28363
Because books.

I've never read it! Although I know the basic story. (Pygmalion, I mean.)

Where do you draw the line between an issue novel and a non-issue novel? I just can't think of a lot of books about generally content people that wouldn't be incredibly boring, but I also find books cathartic. Even something like Little Women has plenty of conflict and drama in it.

I don't think I would classify i A Handmaid's Tale as a *happy* read, though, despite the ending.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 14, 2014 2:50:51 pm PST #21893 of 28363
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As long as we are talking about this-- did Archer actually have sex with Countess Olenska or were they just hangingout outside the bounds of convention.

I can't really think of many happy joyful novels that we would study in English lit, but maybe the canon should include genre fiction?


Sophia Brooks - Jan 14, 2014 2:52:14 pm PST #21894 of 28363
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Enchanted April is a semi happy novel, now that I think about it.


Amy - Jan 14, 2014 2:52:16 pm PST #21895 of 28363
Because books.

In my reading, they're full of UST and angst, Sophia.


sj - Jan 14, 2014 2:55:47 pm PST #21896 of 28363
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I hated the novels I was assigned in high school English until senior year honors English. I loved many of the short stories though. I don't remember reading much non-fiction in high school, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it much. Mostly I prefered reading anything I wasn't assigned.


Kat - Jan 14, 2014 2:58:08 pm PST #21897 of 28363
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Amy, I usually don't draw that line. My big demarcation is plot novels vs. character studies. I used issue novel as shorthand cause on my phone. I figurd HMT is "happy" in that no major character dies. In truth, my AP kids have been keeping a body count, with names, on my board since we have so many works we read where people die. We should read Macbeth just to up the counts.


Vonnie K - Jan 14, 2014 2:58:59 pm PST #21898 of 28363
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The books I read in my junior English lit class were 1) To Kill a Mockingbird, 2) Childhood's End, and 3) Great Gatsby. The first two are not entirely depressing, although not what I'd call joyful. At least it's not Ethan fucking Frome.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 14, 2014 3:03:41 pm PST #21899 of 28363
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Thanks Amy-- I read it that way, too, but I misinterpret things a lot!

There is also an issue in high school, I think, of why the class "English" exists (probably true of any subject)-- is it to teach critical thinking?, is it to teach love of reading?, is it to give someone a taste of what it would be like to be a Lit major?, is it to teach people how to see other peoples points ofview?, is it to teach writing?, is it to give everyone a common base of cultural reference?, is it to teach someone to read symbolism and theme?, or is it all those things or none of them.

Personally,I already loved reading, so it was great to learn to see patterns and interpretations, even though I may have fought against it at first. For example, I hated The Red Pony, and the instructor gave us a list of things that were always" symbols of death, like black clouds and crows circling. And it made meangry-- like, who was she to tell me and/or the author what things mean. ButI remember the lesson clearly, and as anadult,frankly, crows circling doe usually mean death!


Sophia Brooks - Jan 14, 2014 3:06:35 pm PST #21900 of 28363
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Also, I do wonder what it is like for people who a) do notlike to read and b) read slowly. Because I already read voraciously AND fast, and I really felt like The Old Man and the Sea was fishing,fishing, fishing, and saltwaer getting into the wounds made by fishing lines. If I already didnt like to read, would I hate reading instead of not enjoying that book?


Kat - Jan 14, 2014 3:15:10 pm PST #21901 of 28363
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Sophia the answer is yes. Those are my students. Plus reading is hard when you aren't good at it. Today we read an article and I asked my students to circle words they needed clarified. One if the words they needed help with was seldom. Seriously. These kids are 17 and 18.