Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Amy - Jul 15, 2013 2:57:20 pm PDT #21081 of 28371
Because books.

they start to run together.

Exactly. What they're usually marketing is more opportunities to see a girl kicking ass and saving the world (or her part of it), and getting an awesome boyfriend out of it, to boot.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 3:00:29 pm PDT #21082 of 28371
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What they're usually marketing is more opportunities to see a girl kicking ass and saving the world (or her part of it), and getting an awesome boyfriend out of it, to boot.

Katniss being .3 for 2 in this regard...

I respond well to marketing of the "If you like X, you'll love Y" variety, even though I don't always love Y. If I generally like things in the style of X, I'm always looking for more

You know that's not what that is, though, right? Or not much the time, anyway--it's often "the people who like A tend to like B--we make no correlation between the content of A and B because we are an algorithm whose result wasn't sanity checked by a human". Or there's, as I'm assuming Divergent might as well be, a YA book that's not set in the past and there's a chick in a big fight.


Amy - Jul 15, 2013 3:04:43 pm PDT #21083 of 28371
Because books.

Katniss still had two guys in love with her throughout the series (more or less), which counts.


Jesse - Jul 15, 2013 3:07:13 pm PDT #21084 of 28371
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Or not much the time, anyway--it's often "the people who like A tend to like B--we make no correlation between the content of A and B because we are an algorithm whose result wasn't sanity checked by a human".

Well, an algorithm is mostly saying "people who bought A tend to buy B," no? I'm talking about the cover design, blurbs, etc.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2013 3:11:41 pm PDT #21085 of 28371
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, an algorithm is mostly saying "people who bought A tend to buy B," no?

No, if Amazon tells you "related to items you viewed" or Netflix tells you "top 10 for Jesse" (it knows I want SPN, so it's good, but let's be clear about how it reached that conclusion), that's just a correlational algorithm, but it's phrased...encouragingly. Like there might be some surface link.

Katniss still had two guys in love with her throughout the series (more or less), which counts

It's your proposition, so it's your call. I would take away points if the definition is "kickass boyfriend", though. I think she gets a great one, but kickass isn't his defining characteristic for the latter half of the property.


le nubian - Jul 15, 2013 3:28:21 pm PDT #21086 of 28371
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Well fuck, I finished Divergent today. I didn't realize I would read it that quickly. It has been a long time since I finished a book in a day and a half.


Kat - Jul 15, 2013 4:14:09 pm PDT #21087 of 28371
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Matched is nothing like Hunger Games except dystopia. It actually, weirdly, has more in common with ... oh shit, the book that Lois Lowry wrote where everyone gets placed in a job? And he was the.....not seeker, but the repository for all feelings?

Shit. My brain is mush. Matched had slightly more in common with that.

A good LA based dystopia that I thought was interesting was Starters by Lissa Price. Old people rent out and take over young people's bodies.


Kat - Jul 15, 2013 4:14:09 pm PDT #21088 of 28371
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Matched is nothing like Hunger Games except dystopia. It actually, weirdly, has more in common with ... oh shit, the book that Lois Lowry wrote where everyone gets placed in a job? And he was the.....not seeker, but the repository for all feelings?

Shit. My brain is mush. Matched had slightly more in common with that.

A good LA based dystopia that I thought was interesting was Starters by Lissa Price. Old people rent out and take over young people's bodies.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 15, 2013 4:16:51 pm PDT #21089 of 28371
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The Giver?


Kat - Jul 15, 2013 5:08:55 pm PDT #21090 of 28371
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

That's it! Thanks, Sophia.