Congratulations to the class of 1999. You all proved more or less adequate.

Snyder ,'Chosen'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Typo Boy - Jul 10, 2012 8:11:25 pm PDT #19326 of 28343
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I agree with the everything is cilantro. But I'm not sure anyone is pure plot or pure character or pure language. I want everything. And I enjoy world building too which is different from plot. Also even there we can differ. JZ finds Hemingway's language leaden, where I find it close to poetry! We both enjoy language but we see this particular instance very differently.

BTW, I think to like Tolkein you have to enjoy world building equally with plot and character.

I have dipped into Thursday. It has very little of the stuff that sometimes enraged me about Chesterton, but it just does not grab me.


Cass - Jul 10, 2012 9:50:46 pm PDT #19327 of 28343
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

The people who love the character development are different creatures. They are the ones who don't care if nothing happens.

I always think this is who I am but then I look at what I've unashamedly loved reading and I think I'm wrong about myself.

Confession: I donated a bunch of books today. The gaps on my shelves look sad.


Gris - Jul 11, 2012 2:22:27 am PDT #19328 of 28343
Hey. New board.

I like Harry Potter much because of character, actually. Not so much realistic character development, but character fascination. And in a few cases, the character development is pretty great too.

Not that I don't dig the plot, because I DO, but character is often my driving force.


sj - Jul 11, 2012 4:49:22 am PDT #19329 of 28343
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I loathed Hemingway in high school, and I haven't tried to read him since. However, I loved The Paris Wife by Paula McClain, about Hemingway's first wife, and the books had me wondering if I would like Hemingway if I tried to read him again. I love James and Hardy. I haven't read my Melville, other than Bartleby the Scrivener which I loved.


Fred Pete - Jul 11, 2012 6:01:17 am PDT #19330 of 28343
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm okay on Hemingway but not overly enthusiastic. I had to read Henry James in college -- he put me to sleep. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed Theodore Dreiser. An American Tragedy turned out to be just the sort of thing I could get lost in.

I'm probably more character-driven than anything else, but I'm not too picky about the hook that grabs me. In shorter works, I'll sometimes get fascinated by the world that the author builds in the first few chapters, then feel disappointed that things happen to change that world.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 11, 2012 6:20:16 am PDT #19331 of 28343
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

In fact, there are times when I fear that Pete will eventually read Something Wicked This Way Comes or From Dust Returned and HATE them. And then I'd be horrified and sad.

I can't imagine Pete not liking From the Dust Returned Jilli. It's so you that I think appreciating the one would have to translate to appreciating the other.


Strix - Jul 11, 2012 6:47:20 am PDT #19332 of 28343
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Now that I'm older, I can appreciate Hemingway, like I can appreciate that some people like bleu cheese the way I like brie, but I can't stand the taste of it. Which is miles better than my stance on Hemingway when I was younger, which was basically STAB STAB STAB.

Like JZ, I generally groove on the baroque, but I can appreciate terse and laconic (some Duras, e.g.) but generally, I want plot AND characterization AND language.

Tolkien: when I was younger, I read every single word (including the Simarillion and footnotes) but this was also in my "read every encyclopedia of mythology like it's a novel" phase. I skimmed more when I re-read when the movies came out.

I'd rather read Woolf's biographies and diaries than her works, again. Isn't that sad? Not that her work isn't fine, but I find I'm more fascinated with how her life, time and culture affected her work. But I had a Woolf-ite prof so I read a TON of Woolf, and I just don't feel compelled to re-read Mrs. Dalloway or To The Lighthouse for pleasure.

I DO love to watch movies based on her work, though. I think it's really interesting to see what directors and actors do with it.


smonster - Jul 11, 2012 8:34:29 am PDT #19333 of 28343
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I can't think of Hemingway without thinking of...

Romantic? Hemingway? He was an abusive, alcoholic misogynist who squandered half of his life hanging around Picasso trying to nail his leftovers. /10 Things I Hate About You


Atropa - Jul 11, 2012 8:39:53 am PDT #19334 of 28343
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I can't imagine Pete not liking From the Dust Returned Jilli. It's so you that I think appreciating the one would have to translate to appreciating the other.

Awww, thank you, that means a lot to me.

My worry is that I still don't have a good notion of how florid of language Pete prefers to read, so I have no idea if the lushness of Bradbury's prose would set his teeth on edge.


Jesse - Jul 11, 2012 8:41:52 am PDT #19335 of 28343
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In random news, I'm just reading American Gods for the first time, and why did it never occur to me that Wotan = Woden = Odin??