Oh, I'm gonna go to the special hell.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


megan walker - May 27, 2012 3:39:43 pm PDT #18996 of 28333
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Question re: flat vs. apartment.

I'm reading Half Blood Blues and it is narrated by a black jazz musician from Baltimore. It alternates between Paris 1940, Berlin 1939, and Baltimore/Berlin/Poland in 1992. The whole book is told in a very deliberate street dialect. In general, Edugyan, who is Canadian, is very consistent with the speech; however, in the first few pages, the narrator repeatedly uses the word flat, which threw me out of the story completely. Even today the word is pretty rare on the East Coast, but maybe it was used back then. Anyone know?


flea - May 27, 2012 3:50:36 pm PDT #18997 of 28333
information libertarian

I tried Google Ngrams for rented flat vs rented apartment in American English and they don't diverge too significantly until after the war: [link]

(Can't use flat vs. apartment because of course flat means a lot of things.)


megan walker - May 27, 2012 4:03:22 pm PDT #18998 of 28333
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

That graph is fascinating.

If I had to guess, I would have thought the war would increase usage of flat, since I feel like I only use it because of living in Europe. Although I think people use it more out here than on the East Coast.


Sophia Brooks - May 27, 2012 4:04:59 pm PDT #18999 of 28333
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

For some reason, I feel like "cold water flat" is an American usage, but that other than that I associate t with Europe.


Sue - May 27, 2012 4:30:06 pm PDT #19000 of 28333
hip deep in pie

Although I think people use it more out here than on the East Coast.

Interesting. Flat seems common on the East coast of Canada. In Vancouver, everyone called all apartments "suites."


Polter-Cow - May 28, 2012 10:41:11 am PDT #19001 of 28333
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Erin, Dohring as Shaun is perfect, I agree. I'm hearing a lot of lines in his voice, and they work so well. I think I pictured Shaun a little bulkier, but otherwise, yeah.

Ginger wasn't lying about the page-turning-osity, either. I feel like I spend every minute not reading it waiting to read it. And I've already read it!


DavidS - May 28, 2012 10:47:05 am PDT #19002 of 28333
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

P-Cow! How's the cruise?


Strix - May 28, 2012 11:01:01 am PDT #19003 of 28333
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Oh, it's a total page turner! That's why I waited, with much impatience, to read it till I was home, so I could have absolutely uninterrupted time to suck it down.

And, like Hec, I've been thinking about you on your cruise, and am eagerly awaiting update!


sumi - May 28, 2012 3:09:43 pm PDT #19004 of 28333
Art Crawl!!!

"Suites" - that's very interesting.

I've only heard flat used in the verbal descriptions of buildings - like a 4 flat or a 3 flat. But the apartments themselves aren't called flats - they're called apartments.


DebetEsse - May 28, 2012 4:39:17 pm PDT #19005 of 28333
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I always thought it was a bit odd that "paying all kinds of rent for a flat that would flatten the Taj Mahal" was a lyric in a show that was very much set in New York (Guys and Dolls. And feel free to keep that earworm. I certainly have).