Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jessica - Apr 18, 2012 6:38:35 am PDT #18470 of 28293
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If the author has obviously designed the character to be no more than Our Hero's Love Interest, I'd argue that the reviewer could be simply pointing out a failing of the author

If we're talking about Ready Player One...yeah, she's an object in the book. There is literally nothing to say about her in a review other than She Is The Girl. See also: Reason 37 Why Jess Hated This Book So So So Much.

(I could elaborate, but, spoilers.)


Polter-Cow - Apr 18, 2012 6:42:47 am PDT #18471 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Apology accepted. I'd prefer the discussion to move on and focus on the actual book, which, despite not being particularly progressive in its portrayal of women, is pretty awesome and fun! Especially since I, too, grew up on video and computer games. It pretty much won my heart for the big honking Zork reference alone. You should have seen me freaking out and celebrating in my car when that happened. Couldn't believe I missed it either, Parzival.


hippocampus - Apr 18, 2012 7:15:19 am PDT #18472 of 28293
not your mom's socks.

Well, honestly, that is basically her role in the story.

I'm going to disagree with you on that point. Art3mis doesn't start out to be date meat. She's the chaotic neutral opponent who is kicking ass at one point. My interest was piqued. Then she was devolved and I got pissed off. It's not her role in the story at first. It's what the author chose to do in order to keep his character in line with a stereotype.

I can hate that part and love much of the rest of the book, but this is a major flaw for me.


Polter-Cow - Apr 18, 2012 7:24:56 am PDT #18473 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You're totally right, Sox. She definitely starts out as a potentially interesting character, and some of that role does remain, but she's mostly the Love Interest overall.

It's definitely flawed, and it had the potential to be more amazing, but I enjoyed the hell out of it, so I focused on the positive.


Jessica - Apr 18, 2012 9:58:43 am PDT #18474 of 28293
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Art3mis doesn't start out [spoiler]

Oh, I think she does. How do you differentiate "what her character is" from "what the author chose to do with her"? If it were a completely different book with a different POV, then she could have been a completely different character. But it's not, and she's not. She's a fanboy wet dream.

And only marginally less offensive than Aech winning the token minority jackpot and instantly having her identity erased because, you know, Parcival doesn't see race or gender or sexuality! People tell him he's white and he believes them because he's a giant fucking douche. Sorry, did I mention I hated this book yet? Because I really did.


hippocampus - Apr 18, 2012 10:18:57 am PDT #18475 of 28293
not your mom's socks.

How do you differentiate "what her character is" from "what the author chose to do with her"?

Good point. I think I was so glad to see her character allowed to play a strong game at the start I let a lot of things go. Until I didn't. And yes, " She's a fanboy wet dream." this.

And only marginally less offensive

I lessthanthree Jessica a whole lot right now.

Edited because I can't type and think at the same time today. I left in my bobblehead impression, because, well.


Consuela - Apr 18, 2012 11:56:40 am PDT #18476 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, Jessica and Sox between them have convinced me not to read Ready Player 1... sorry, P-C!


megan walker - Apr 18, 2012 12:13:12 pm PDT #18477 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Jessica convinced me long ago. I feel so cutting edge.

It was the only titled I was bummed to see on The Readers summer book club list because Jess had been so vehement awhile back it stuck in my brain.


Polter-Cow - Apr 18, 2012 6:59:02 pm PDT #18478 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Exciting news for Discount Armageddon fans: DAW just bought three more books! The next Verity book is Midnight Blue-Light Special, and then there are two Alex books, Half-Off Ragnarok and Pocket Apocalypse, followed by another Verity book, Professional Gore-eography.


Steph L. - Apr 19, 2012 4:53:55 am PDT #18479 of 28293
I look more rad than Lutheranism

HAIL!