Book: Where's the doctor? Not back yet? Zoe: (beat) We don't make him hurry for the little stuff. He'll be along. Book: He could hurry... a little.

'Safe'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Gris - Feb 29, 2012 4:50:10 am PST #18057 of 28282
Hey. New board.

I prefer '"Ha, Ha!" she cried triumphantly' to "'Ha, Ha!' she crowed", for Harry Potter, because it is aimed at a juvenile audience, who may or may not understand that "crowed" implies a triumphant nature. Sure, it's educational to include words in YA books that encourage vocabulary building, but I think it's important to include such words in a context that can be easily understood. The problem I see with this example is that for many readers, especially younger ones, the phrase "Ha, Ha!" will immediately imply not triumph, but mirth. When I read it, the comma is enough to tell me this isn't actually a laugh, but more of a whoop, but that won't be enough for many young readers. I think, in this case, that an easy-to-understand adverb (rather than a less-obvious verb, or a use of "cried" alone) clarifies that this is not a laugh. At least, not exactly.

Kids read things with their own hard-to-break filters. When I was in 3rd grade, I was in The Best Christmas Pageant Ever. One of the other actors kept reading the line "Yeah! Right!" (affirmative) as "Yeah right." (sarcastic disagreement) because the sarcastic "Yeah right." was a very common phrase at the time and the words, as written, with no direction, confused him. It took the director about 10 minutes of saying "No, you should say it like this..." to finally lock down that he thought the character was disagreeing, not agreeing, at which point he clarified and the line reading immediately made sense. Now, the author, who was writing many years earlier, could not have predicted this confusion, but I think it's fair to try to prevent confusion around a phrase like "Ha, Ha!" being used in the less common fashion by including an explanatory adverb.


Fred Pete - Feb 29, 2012 5:34:12 am PST #18058 of 28282
Ann, that's a ferret.

Fair point, Gris. Audience is important.


sumi - Feb 29, 2012 7:24:34 am PST #18059 of 28282
Art Crawl!!!

I have developed a dislike for the use of "through" and "through out" as seen in the tuition waiver essays I've been reading this week.

I think it's clunky and very possibly wrong.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 29, 2012 7:45:22 am PST #18060 of 28282
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

All this "adverb" talk has earwormed me with Schoolhouse Rock.

Lolly lolly lolly...


Volans - Feb 29, 2012 11:53:02 am PST #18061 of 28282
move out and draw fire

I write for the government, primarily, and we aren't allowed to use adverbs. Or adjectives. Or metaphors or similes. EVERYTHING is contained in the verb choice.

I don't know, maybe this is part of the increasing government austerity? Do adverbs cost more?


Typo Boy - Feb 29, 2012 11:56:07 am PST #18062 of 28282
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Raq, just a matter of government policy being behind the times. Adverbs used to be expensive, but they are now made in bulk in Indonesia and cost almost nothing.


Connie Neil - Feb 29, 2012 12:10:13 pm PST #18063 of 28282
brillig

Darn cheap outsourced adverbs. They're keeping writers here at home from having the adverbs we want!


Ginger - Feb 29, 2012 12:13:06 pm PST #18064 of 28282
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Eventually they'll outsource the verbs, and all the sentences will fall apart in piles of nouns.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 29, 2012 1:49:10 pm PST #18065 of 28282
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Budget. Shortfall. You. Solution. Jiffy.


Volans - Feb 29, 2012 3:07:02 pm PST #18066 of 28282
move out and draw fire

I do know some govies who tend to leave out the nouns when they speak.

Adverbs used to be expensive, but they are now made in bulk in Indonesia and cost almost nothing.

But due to the Buy America Act, we have to source ours domestically. Like that one; it came from a job-creating small business in Maryland.