Who died and made you Elvis?

Cordelia ,'Storyteller'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 2:37:53 pm PST #16864 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's not just Deadly Game, it's Teen Deadly Game which is the accusation.

Oy. In this YA heavy market there's no trope which hasn't been rebranded by adding teen protagonists. It is not a great leap of originality. Anyway, the originality of the premise isn't why the books were a success. Collins practically had a cliffhanger in every chapter. And she made you care about the characters.

There were plenty of teenaged girls in Japanese anime and live action who fought demons in high school. None of them were as well written or executed as Buffy.


Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2011 2:39:09 pm PST #16865 of 28288
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Like I said, the Battle Royale is to discourage teenage rebellion:

At the dawn of the millennium, the nation collapsed. At fifteen percent unemployment, ten million were out of work. 800,000 students boycotted school. The adults lost confidence and, fearing the youth, eventually passed the Millennium Educational Reform Act, AKA the BR Act....

So it's mildly dystopic, but not to the extent of the Capitol. The sequel (the book has no sequel, but the movie and manga do) does seem to have a bit of "teens rebel against the government."

As far as Teen Deadly Game goes, the Hunger Games takes twelve-year-olds.


Connie Neil - Nov 16, 2011 2:52:12 pm PST #16866 of 28288
brillig

Battle Royale sounds like Running Man, to a degree.

Was there a movie about an everyone-for-themselves fight set in a prison, also called Battle Royale?


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 2:57:55 pm PST #16867 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was there a movie about an everyone-for-themselves fight set in a prison, also called Battle Royale?

Andersonville! (/joke for Civil War historians)


Connie Neil - Nov 16, 2011 2:59:06 pm PST #16868 of 28288
brillig

I don't think there were as many women slinging automatic weapons in Andersonville.


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 2:59:52 pm PST #16869 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think there were as many women slinging automatic weapons in Andersonville.

Maybe one nurse with a gatling gun? Okay, probably not.


Connie Neil - Nov 16, 2011 3:02:46 pm PST #16870 of 28288
brillig

Well, alternative history is a valid genre . . .


Jessica - Nov 16, 2011 3:37:38 pm PST #16871 of 28288
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't have usually have a problem with a story that is all male, if it would be untrue to the period or written in an era when it wouldn't occur to the writer to include a woman in, for example, a combat scene. What I dislike is women whose only roles are screaming, fainting, helplessness and being rescued.

Ditto. I also prefer books with no women to books with terribly-written women. (Neither of which applies to Tolkien, but Kindle keeps telling me I'd like Ready Player One and I have to keep telling it OH FUCK NO so the topic's been on my mind.)


Aims - Nov 16, 2011 4:01:19 pm PST #16872 of 28288
Shit's all sorts of different now.

OMG HUNGER GAMES!!

That is all.


Fred Pete - Nov 17, 2011 4:32:55 am PST #16873 of 28288
Ann, that's a ferret.

There were nurses in Andersonville?

Okay. To be fair.

There were Confederate nurses in Andersonville?

I'm not a fan of war books/military history as a genre, but when I fall in love with one, I fall hard. And few, if any, war books deserve love more than McElroy's memoirs of Andersonville.