Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do this? Kaylee: Sure. Yeah. I think so. 'Sides, if I mess up, not like you'll be able to yell at me.

'Bushwhacked'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Aug 22, 2011 10:35:51 am PDT #16141 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In what ways, David?

Well, first of all I don't think Stross is a very good writer. His books read like RPG manuals. (Which he used to write.)

I know that Glasshouse was specifically emulating Banks' culture novels, something Stross acknowledges.

For somebody who is interested in writing about the effects of radical body reinvention he doesn't have a lot of psychological subtlety in his work. Characters wear their bodies like suits, and their subjective experiences seem very static in relation to that.

Compared to somebody like Delaney or Leguin he's got absolutely no sense of how a gender fluid character might think or feel.

I think he's good with extrapolating the implications of the hard science and how radical the effects of those changes could be. But his sense of character seems really conventional to me.


Jessica - Aug 22, 2011 10:41:55 am PDT #16142 of 28288
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've read several books by both Stross and Banks, and it would never occur to me to compare them. They're really not very similar at all.


hippocampus - Aug 22, 2011 10:43:47 am PDT #16143 of 28288
not your mom's socks.

What have you read besides Glasshouse?


DavidS - Aug 22, 2011 10:47:16 am PDT #16144 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What have you read besides Glasshouse?

That's it. I didn't like it so I wasn't interested in reading more.

I've read several books by both Stross and Banks, and it would never occur to me to compare them. They're really not very similar at all.

Stross invited the comparison by saying he specifically tried to write a Banks-like book.


hippocampus - Aug 22, 2011 10:51:26 am PDT #16145 of 28288
not your mom's socks.

That's it. I didn't like it so I wasn't interested in reading more.

Ah, ok. It felt like your broader comments were based on having read Halting State, some of his short stories, Accelerando, or the Laundry Series.

I'm a fan of both Stross and Banks, for many different reasons, but it took me a couple books written by each before I could say more about their style beyond a single novel.

That said, your dislike is very clear and I'll remember not to suggest any of the books above to you in the future!


meara - Aug 22, 2011 10:55:55 am PDT #16146 of 28288

I enjoyed (and own) the first few Family Trade books he wrote, but then they veered off and I wasn't such a fan. And Glasshouse I recall really irritating and annoying me.

But I haven't read any Banks, so can't compare.


DavidS - Aug 22, 2011 11:00:49 am PDT #16147 of 28288
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That said, your dislike is very clear and I'll remember not to suggest any of the books above to you in the future!

That's right! Keep that nasty ol' Stross away from me.

But I do like to hear about the stuff that piques your interest, Sox.


Toddson - Aug 22, 2011 11:18:53 am PDT #16148 of 28288
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I recently read Glasshouse and was iffy on it at the beginning, but got into it as it went on. There was a lovely bit of prose about use being fragile beings trailing strings of memories behind us.


hippocampus - Aug 22, 2011 11:58:24 am PDT #16149 of 28288
not your mom's socks.

Oh, awesome! Please let me know if that happens so I can tell Seanan.

P-C, looks like it will be happening :) two classes, one grad, one undergrad. hee.

I totally earned my bookpusher badge.

Tell her she looked great at the Hugos.


Polter-Cow - Aug 22, 2011 12:26:13 pm PDT #16150 of 28288
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, awesome! Please let me know if that happens so I can tell Seanan.

P-C, looks like it will be happening :) two classes, one grad, one undergrad. hee.

So cool!!

Tell her she looked great at the Hugos.

I shall.