Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Jul 29, 2011 10:34:40 am PDT #15781 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

This book has no plot.

Well, I wouldn't say that, so much; I think the plot is the growing power of the Umbridge/Fudge faction at the Ministry, while ignoring the also-growing power of Voldemort. The problem, though, is that Harry has no plot--he's not trying to solve anything or save anything or win anything--he's just trying to get through the year without exploding in frustrated rage.

It does suck some of the narrative drive out of the book, granted, but I did like the slow realization by the kids that the folks in authority were Really Not Their Friends. They've finally gotten to the point that they are politically-aware, and they can see how badly the adult institutions are failing them, hence Harry's rage and the institution of the DA.

In many ways, OOTP is a transitional book: other than the big battle at the Department of Mysteries, it's all setup for the war.


Toddson - Jul 29, 2011 10:58:15 am PDT #15782 of 28293
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

OK, I haven't read the Harry Potter books, but I've seen the movies. In GoF it really bugged me when the other schools came in and they were doing the hyper-feminine/hyper-masculine entrance. One school, all girls, came wafting in, graceful arm gestures, some kind of gentle pastel effect. Another, all boys, marched in, did some kind of thudding their ... staffs? ... down. It's been a while since I saw it, but it hit me so that I still remember it. Did it hit anyone else that way?


Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2011 11:03:24 am PDT #15783 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The problem, though, is that Harry has no plot--he's not trying to solve anything or save anything or win anything--he's just trying to get through the year without exploding in frustrated rage.

Yep, exactly. I agree with everything else you said, too.


Amy - Jul 29, 2011 11:04:10 am PDT #15784 of 28293
Because books.

In many ways, OOTP is a transitional book: other than the big battle at the Department of Mysteries, it's all setup for the war.

When you put it that way, you're totally right. I never thought about it that way, but yes, if you were to try to read OotP on its own, it would be a huge disappointment. Whereas you could read the first few books as stand-alones and still read a great story.


Hil R. - Jul 29, 2011 11:08:05 am PDT #15785 of 28293
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

One school, all girls, came wafting in, graceful arm gestures, some kind of gentle pastel effect. Another, all boys, marched in, did some kind of thudding their ... staffs? ... down. It's been a while since I saw it, but it hit me so that I still remember it. Did it hit anyone else that way?

It hit me that way, too. In the books, I think the pastelly school was co-ed, but there wasn't much mention of the boys, since the only character from that school who really mattered for the plot was Fleur. But I do remember some boys being mentioned once or twice, just in a general sort of "the boys and girls entered" thing.


smonster - Jul 29, 2011 11:15:35 am PDT #15786 of 28293
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Toddson, it bugged me, too.


Volans - Jul 29, 2011 11:15:48 am PDT #15787 of 28293
move out and draw fire

Oh, that's not the least of the subtexty text in GoF.


Toddson - Jul 29, 2011 11:28:10 am PDT #15788 of 28293
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Oh, so glad it wasn't just me.


Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2011 11:28:40 am PDT #15789 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

When you put it that way, you're totally right. I never thought about it that way, but yes, if you were to try to read OotP on its own, it would be a huge disappointment. Whereas you could read the first few books as stand-alones and still read a great story.

Maybe that's why I'm enjoying it more now, because I'm reading it as part of the long tale and not as The Book That Just Came Out.

Also, how much do I hate Pansy Parkinson? All she does is walk around being awful. At least Draco has LAYERS.


Laga - Jul 29, 2011 11:56:50 am PDT #15790 of 28293
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I couldn't help noticing that the Durmstrang fire bender turned a snake into a phoenix.