Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - May 23, 2011 7:56:33 am PDT #14841 of 28289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

If Hagrid was at Hogwarts fifty years ago, that would put him in his early sixties. I always imagined him younger for some reason.

I have the suspicion that some wizards live longer, and maybe giants do, too. After all, Dumbledore was already headmaster at Hogwarts when Hagrid & Riddle were there.

Oh man, Ron/Hermione is so blindingly obvious now.

Well, yes. The constant (unending and occasionally really damned annoying) bickering is a dead giveaway. That said, it's kind of surprising in one way, because Ron is so frequently stupid on an emotional level. But not always: he often picks up on stuff Harry's thinking faster than Hermione does.

The problem with Ron is that he's basically the Zeppo of the series: not powerful, not particularly lucky, not super-smart. He should be the emotional core of the trio, but I don't think JKR does a great job showing that (not as well as Joss did with Xander, anyway). At least he does get his own storyline, but I'm halfway through Order of the Phoenix and desperate for Ron to develop some competence on the quidditch pitch...


le nubian - May 23, 2011 8:04:54 am PDT #14842 of 28289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think Ron's chief contribution vis-a-vis Harry is his friendship and his access to the Weasleys. If not for those connections, the stories could not have proceeded as they do.


Polter-Cow - May 23, 2011 8:06:14 am PDT #14843 of 28289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

After all, Dumbledore was already headmaster at Hogwarts when Hagrid & Riddle were there.

No, he wasn't. He was Transfiguration teacher. The headmaster was Armando Dippet.


Fred Pete - May 23, 2011 8:12:27 am PDT #14844 of 28289
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'd go more general (or maybe this is just another way of saying what you just said). Ron is the only one of the three that has grown up in the wizarding world. Without him, Harry and Hermione are lost.

And yes, Harry has a certain special status as The One Who Survived, but Dumbledore, Hagrid, and so on can't be with him day-to-day to explain this, that, or the other.

Which raises another question -- how are the muggle-born introduced into the ways of wizarding? There doesn't seme to be any real orientation beyond a speech from Dumbledore at the first dinner.


le nubian - May 23, 2011 8:20:45 am PDT #14845 of 28289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Hermione read everything. And I think there was a class that students could take about history, etc. if they needed it.


Consuela - May 23, 2011 8:31:32 am PDT #14846 of 28289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

No, he wasn't. He was Transfiguration teacher. The headmaster was Armando Dippet.

Hah. I missed that somehow.


Consuela - May 23, 2011 8:35:18 am PDT #14847 of 28289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Ron is the only one of the three that has grown up in the wizarding world. Without him, Harry and Hermione are lost.

Or, well, the reader is. I think Hermione's position as The Girl Who Reads Everything helps her operate as Infodump Central, but it's true that the reader still needs a social navigator.

And I agree that without access to the emotional support of the Weasley clan, Harry's position is just too depressing for words. And thus too grim for the reader, who needs occasional moments of gnome-tossing in the back garden.

I had forgotten how important Fred and George were (as well as the other family members), frankly--although I sort of wish JKR had made more of an effort to distinguish the two. At the moment, five books in, the only difference I have seen between the two of them is that George was the one who (with Harry) punched Draco--but only because Fred was being physically restrained at the time. That said, she does a solid job with the rest of the family: they're all unique characters.


Polter-Cow - May 23, 2011 8:42:44 am PDT #14848 of 28289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm trying to distinguish between Fred and George myself but finding it difficult. Fred usually speaks first? I guess?


Laga - May 23, 2011 8:55:46 am PDT #14849 of 28289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Ron is the only one of the three that has grown up in the wizarding world.

He's the only one who knew about Beedle the Bard

Hermione read everything.

except Beedle the Bard.


Consuela - May 23, 2011 8:59:16 am PDT #14850 of 28289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

except Beedle the Bard.

Right, because that's a children's book, right? Yeah, she would have concentrated on histories and magical theory, not popular literature.

I did like the moment in Book 5 where she says "I cannot believe you guys STILL haven't read Hogwarts: A History, given how much Really Important Information I keep finding in it!" It's really amusing. But why should they, if they have Hermione available to provide the data for them?