Time for some thrilling heroics.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


megan walker - May 18, 2011 8:58:47 am PDT #14769 of 28293
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

This is the first book that really shows the lack of a strong line-edit.

Isn't that the first book they didn't translate? (Which I assume is because of compressed editing time and not a sudden feeling that Americans would know what a jumper was).


le nubian - May 18, 2011 8:59:44 am PDT #14770 of 28293
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

'Suela, I'm in agreement with your post. I have nothing else thoughtful to say. I really felt, at the time reading OOP that it needed one good round of edits. It is better than GOF, which also needed a good editor, but it is almost as if her editor quit after book 3, never to return.


Consuela - May 18, 2011 9:06:57 am PDT #14771 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I guess we're meant to assume that they died some time before Harry was born, or at least before Lily and James died.

Which, you know, that's pretty traumatic, really: they're both orphaned by the time they're 19 or 20? Jeez. And Sirius has run away from his family, and so forth.

Which does make me wonder: doesn't it cost money to go to Hogwarts? If Sirius is cut off from the Blacks, who's paying his school fees? I assume there must be some, because it's clear that one of the reasons the Weasleys are so stretched is the cost of sending every single kid to school.


Hil R. - May 18, 2011 9:09:26 am PDT #14772 of 28293
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Which does make me wonder: doesn't it cost money to go to Hogwarts? If Sirius is cut off from the Blacks, who's paying his school fees? I assume there must be some, because it's clear that one of the reasons the Weasleys are so stretched is the cost of sending every single kid to school.

I don't think there's tuition, but there are uniforms and books and various other things. When Hagrid takes Harry to Gringott's the first time, they take out money to buy his supplies, but nobody mentions then or in the acceptance letter that there are any school fees.


Amy - May 18, 2011 9:14:07 am PDT #14773 of 28293
Because books.

What Hil said about tuition. That's the impression I always got.


Consuela - May 18, 2011 9:33:42 am PDT #14774 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't think there's tuition, but there are uniforms and books and various other things.

Right, okay. In which case, where's the money to run the school coming from? Do we assume that the Four Founders established a foundation? Actually, that might work, and would also work to explain why there is still a Slytherin House: the trust requires it, and if they tried to break the trust, they'd lose funding for the whole place.


Jessica - May 18, 2011 9:40:46 am PDT #14775 of 28293
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have a feeling you've already put more thought into this than JKR has.


Amy - May 18, 2011 9:41:42 am PDT #14776 of 28293
Because books.

But isn't a lot of it taken care of magically? Those big feasts, for instance. That's wandwork, not actual cooking.

I could see a trust to take care of the teachers, though, who presumably need some money aside from their room and board.


Consuela - May 18, 2011 9:43:10 am PDT #14777 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have a feeling you've already put more thought into this than JKR has.

I should hope not! I do have the sense that she has gobs and gobs of material she's written down to backstop the universe, even if she hasn't published it. So she probably knows how Hogwarts is funded, she just doesn't seem to have ever said it.

Compare Rowling with Lewis, who apparently invested no thought at all in his world-building, and as a result, it's a right mess. Which may not bother many people, to be fair.


§ ita § - May 18, 2011 9:43:47 am PDT #14778 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

More thought than goes into most stories of the genre, that's for sure. JKR was undoubtedly lucky to get picked up by such a broad demographic of readers, but as far as I can tell her worldbuilding is pretty good, and in line with the other good works of a similar genre.

Yeah, worldbuilding fails under close inspection, but that's not new to YA, or to sci fi and fantasy in general. I think she's doing pretty well with what she's put forward to convey emotion and adventure and excitement and horror, since I'm sure that was her major goal, not putting all the building blocks of a functional society in place.