But saying Giles "had to leave" for any narrative reason is mis-stating things. Was there any intention for him to leave if ASH hadn't?
We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!
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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
§ ita § - May 10, 2011 6:56:24 pm PDT #14680 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
erin_obscure - May 10, 2011 7:03:23 pm PDT #14681 of 28293
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
To his credit, Dumbledore does suffer grievously as he tries to eliminate the horcruxes, first taking the curse into his hand which is fatal,
Wasn't it revealed in the last book that his hand was destroyed not as part of an effort to destroy the horcrux, but because he believes the ring was the resurrection stone and was so tempted by that power that he put it on? Then Snape saved him by confining the destruction to only the hand that had worn the ring.
Yes, he did sacrifice himself with the basin potion and the inferi...which just struck me as martyring himself in Harry's eyes because he already knew the curse of the ring was killing him. He could have done far more to earn Harry's love and loyalty. It pissed me off royally that he with held so much vital information.
DavidS - May 10, 2011 7:03:25 pm PDT #14682 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But saying Giles "had to leave" for any narrative reason is mis-stating things.
I don't think so. In the classic "hero's journey" the hero must separate from their mentor. This is the metaphorical aspect of the narrative, and I do think that even if ASH didn't leave then his role would have to be diminished for Buffy to emerge. So that she's not taking orders from him.
Was there any intention for him to leave if ASH hadn't?
I don't know.
erin_obscure - May 10, 2011 7:03:56 pm PDT #14683 of 28293
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
Anyone here through A Storm of Swords? Ye gods, my head is about to explode.
DavidS - May 10, 2011 7:04:34 pm PDT #14684 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
but because he believes the ring was the resurrection stone and was so tempted by that power that he put it on?
That's true, but I found that weakness endearing, since he wanted to see his sister and, I suspect, ask her forgiveness.
Rayne - May 10, 2011 9:08:29 pm PDT #14685 of 28293
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire
I'm only about 20% into Storm of Swords. These books are so addicting! And horribly, horribly bleak!
Liese S. - May 11, 2011 6:40:53 pm PDT #14686 of 28293
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I'm just now starting the first one. But I am ready for bleak!
erin_obscure - May 11, 2011 8:58:13 pm PDT #14687 of 28293
Occasionally I’m callous and strange
I'll try to not be spoilery, but i'm loving how Book 2 separates so many characters, and then in Book 3 they start coming back together. And the bleak horrors. I did have to just stop and walk away for a few hours after one chapter. But then i went back. These books are an abusive lover.
Consuela - May 13, 2011 6:37:26 am PDT #14688 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
More Snape: halfway through Goblet of Fire, Snape makes an entirely unwarranted and terribly cruel comment about Hermione's teeth. I'm back to the "People like this guy?" question.
In other news, I'd forgotten how completely isolated Harry gets in this one, because even Ron has turned on him. It's really kind of painful to hear. But you can see the kids getting older, too--they're much more adolescents in this book, even without the minor angst about crush-objects sprinkled through the book. (And I'd forgotten that Ron had a crush on Fleur first, who ends up with his brother Bill.)
The other bad side of audiobooks, of course, is that I cannot flip back easily to the part where Ron & Harry make up fortunes for themselves to see how many of them really come true. I'm thinking rather a lot.
Polter-Cow - May 13, 2011 6:53:47 am PDT #14689 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I'm almost done with the first audiobook, but one thing is filling me with rage: why is there no musical cue that the CD is over? It just flips over to the first track, and it takes me a few seconds to realize that it sounds terribly familiar, and then I've lost my place. Do most audiobooks have a signal that the CD is done? Why don't these, for crying out loud?