Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?

'Out Of Gas'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Apr 15, 2011 8:43:43 am PDT #14431 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I am a TOTAL sucker for that.

Understandable. But IIRC, I thought that, beyond that trope, the characterizations weren't very complicated. But you know, I should reread it instead of keep talking about it. It'll have to wait, though: I'm 1/3 of the way into Hat Full of Sky right now, and I'm sorely tempted to do some filing so I can put on my headphones and listen to more...


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2011 8:49:17 am PDT #14432 of 28293
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

They weren't especially, though at a typical level for his lighter-toned work, which this falls into. (Which is why Feet of Clay and Night Watch remain my favorites in Discworld proper.)


Polter-Cow - Apr 15, 2011 9:03:08 am PDT #14433 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Feet of Clay was my least favorite of the Watch books, huh! And I was hoping to love Night Watch more than I actually did, I think.


Laga - Apr 15, 2011 10:03:01 am PDT #14434 of 28293
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I got one more thing to say about this book and then I'll shut up.

...for nearly eleven months Julia had resided in my brain, in those drafty, capacious, hopeful apartments where the ghost of Santa Claus still placidly rattled about, along with my watchfully dead grandmother, and reincarnation and magic and everything else that couldn't survive out in the brighter hard highways of my mean metropolitan mind.

that's beautiful.


Jessica - Apr 15, 2011 10:08:11 am PDT #14435 of 28293
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Seriously, NYT? [link]

The true perversion, though, is the sense you get that all of this illicitness has been tossed in as a little something for the ladies, out of a justifiable fear, perhaps, that no woman alive would watch otherwise. While I do not doubt that there are women in the world who read books like Mr. Martin’s, I can honestly say that I have never met a single woman who has stood up in indignation at her book club and refused to read the latest from Lorrie Moore unless everyone agreed to “The Hobbit” first. “Game of Thrones” is boy fiction patronizingly turned out to reach the population’s other half.

Stay classy, Grey Lady.


javachik - Apr 15, 2011 10:10:13 am PDT #14436 of 28293
Our wings are not tired.

Oh hell. I DID belong to a book club where that exact thing happened. What a fucking idiot.


Consuela - Apr 15, 2011 10:12:35 am PDT #14437 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

While I do not doubt that there are women in the world who read books like Mr. Martin’s, I can honestly say that I have never met a single woman who has stood up in indignation at her book club and refused to read the latest from Lorrie Moore unless everyone agreed to “The Hobbit” first.

Dude, depends on the book club. They're gonna get a shedload of letters about that. Also, apparently they missed the memo about how men read SF and women read fantasy (even though it's not entirely true).

What I find frustrating about the whole ASoF&I thing is how much more attention Martin gets than female writers who are doing the exact same thing. Kate Elliott's got a number of meaty complex plotty fantasies with good world-building, but she doesn't get nearly as much slavering fannish adoration--even though she does, in fact, finish her series.

I have to admit I have a lurking suspicion as to why that is...


DavidS - Apr 15, 2011 10:51:01 am PDT #14438 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

IO9 rebuts the NYT, saying Game of Thrones is obviously for girls.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2011 10:53:26 am PDT #14439 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That article totally fooled me at first. I had to read this over and over:

well I will grant you that scenes of explicit sex, especially the rape and brother-sister incest we see in Game, have traditionally appealed only to female audiences


Ginger - Apr 15, 2011 11:04:24 am PDT #14440 of 28293
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm still baffled by that, ita.

I have not read The Game of Thrones et al, because my tolerance for really long books with a lot of names in them has gone down as I've gotten older. I would, however, be more likely to read it than most literary fiction. In general, I'm allergic to almost anything described as "chick," unless the subject is baby chickens.