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Strega - Mar 14, 2011 5:59:46 pm PDT #14108 of 28333

I knew it was IO9 and I went there anyway, so it's my own fault, but someone should tell Literary Fiction Guy that there's also a basic grammatical error in the first fucking sentence. And that's far from the only one, but I got distracted by the fact that he seems to have a serious problem ending his sentences.

Last week I was ranting about how if I'm supposed to take web publications seriously, it would really help if the editors proofread the articles they posted and, y'know, EDITED. Even good writers make mistakes. But he is not a good writer, and he seems to assume anecdotes are universal truths, and those things combined make it difficult for me to follow his argument. Now I'm going to mark up a copy of that for my own satisfaction because, jesus.


§ ita § - Mar 14, 2011 6:03:36 pm PDT #14109 of 28333
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I knew it was IO9 and I went there anyway

To be fair, that's not written by IO9 staff, and is of a much lower SPAG level than most of their articles, as well as them not fixing it in response to user comments.

I do think posting an article that is about high selling books and misspells what it deems a household name...is there some reason it was printed verbatim?


§ ita § - Mar 14, 2011 6:14:29 pm PDT #14110 of 28333
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, it's not like my mother had any familiarity with British or American children's literature so my exposure to it is pretty random.

Now that I think about that...neither does mine. But she had little to no control over what YA books I read, and a reasonably small amount over anything I read past age seven or so. Then it was all on everyone around me, because it was their shit I was stealing.


Strega - Mar 14, 2011 7:40:01 pm PDT #14111 of 28333

To be fair, that's not written by IO9 staff,

But surely that should be a cue to give it more editorial attention? Or any?

I think it's an extreme case, but I've gotten that first-draft-is-good-enough feel pretty consistently from all of the Gawker sites (and plenty of other content farms) and I just can't believe there's any serious editorial review. Which is why I usually avoid them now; if they don't value their own content, why should I?

I feel badly for the writers. They're learning how to meet deadlines, I suppose, but a good editor can teach you to be a much better writer, and they aren't getting that.


Strega - Mar 14, 2011 7:51:50 pm PDT #14112 of 28333

Now I'm rereading and I think Hec actually summed up my problem. I can't ignore the writing and focus on the meaning of an article -- even when the problems aren't as severe as in that particular piece.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2011 5:21:27 am PDT #14113 of 28333
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But surely that should be a cue to give it more editorial attention? Or any?

I don't think those get edited at all, to be honest. I think they go up as a verbatim post that was also up somewhere else on the web. It's a thing they do, reuse other content.

That piece is HORRENDOUSLY incorrect. And I don't think it has a good enough point that I'd post it anyway, if the house rule were what I thought it was. But I read just about every IO9 article, and they're usually grammatically correct with good spelling.


Strega - Mar 15, 2011 7:14:00 am PDT #14114 of 28333

It's not just grammar & spelling, but if they're usually correct at that level, I've had extraordinarily bad luck.

I just grabbed that movie review by their senior reporter and popped it into Word, which found 6 punctuation/grammar errors (ignoring the usual false positives). I'd say there are at least another half-dozen style problems, ranging from a grammar issue that Word didn't catch to stuff like:

(there's no daylight to indicate time or clocks).
...Because daylight is such a great indicator of clocks?

And then the fact that she can't pick a POV. It's ugly writing and I can't see past it. (I'm not saying other people should react this way, but man, it really bugs me. Obviously.)


flea - Mar 16, 2011 4:04:44 pm PDT #14115 of 28333
information libertarian

These are supposedly from actual books, which I guess they must be (I am envisioning the slush pile) because you couldn't make some of this shit up: [link]


Laga - Mar 17, 2011 6:28:45 am PDT #14116 of 28333
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

eep! Stuff like this is why I never end up submitting anything I've written. What if I don't realize how much I suck?


DavidS - Mar 17, 2011 6:48:57 am PDT #14117 of 28333
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What if I don't realize how much I suck?

You gotta getta beta, baby.