Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


megan walker - Sep 11, 2006 7:41:23 am PDT #1193 of 28134
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Low Life, by Luc Sante, is FASCINATING and a cracking good read. It's an overview of the crime and vice of that era and is one of my favorite books. [link]
Oooh, that sounds way better than Five Points by Tyler Anbinder, which I would definitely not recommend. Boring.


sj - Sep 11, 2006 7:43:02 am PDT #1194 of 28134
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Has he read The Alienist? If not, that would be a good fiction read (old NY, early Teddy Roosevelt) for him.

I was hoping for more of a non-fiction history book, but that sounds good. New York in that era is definitely what he is interested in.


megan walker - Sep 11, 2006 7:45:36 am PDT #1195 of 28134
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Was he reading the Edmund Morris TR biography? Because that's in the TBR stack on my table (not to be confused with the TBR stack by the bed). Should it be upgraded to bed status?


JZ - Sep 11, 2006 7:47:55 am PDT #1196 of 28134
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Low Life, by Luc Sante, is FASCINATING and a cracking good read.

Heh. Hec was just raving about that book last night to my brother and spouse, who are newly New Yorkers and not fully steeped in its history as yet.

Also, anything by Herbert Asbury (The French Quarter, The Barbary Coast, Gangs of New York). His books are simultaneously narrower and broader than 19th century history -- each one focuses on a single city or region, and explores everything worth hearing about both before and after the 19th cent. -- but they're great, snarky, lively books crammed with deliciously low, nasty, murderous history. There's so much glorious filth that has played a huge part in shaping the character of our greatest cities, and most of it never makes it into the official texts.


Ginger - Sep 11, 2006 7:49:53 am PDT #1197 of 28134
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

David McCullough does a great job, and his recent popularity means they've reissued his earlier books, which I think are his best. That includes Johnstown Flood; Great Bridge: The Epic Story of the Building of the Brooklyn Bridge; Mornings on Horseback: The Story of an Extraordinary Family, a Vanished Way of Life and the Unique Child Who Became Theodore Roosevelt; and Path Between The Seas : The Creation of the Panama Canal, 1870-1914. If he's particularly interested in New York, the Brooklyn Bridge book is really good.

There's also my campaign to get everyone to read The Education of Henry Adams.


sj - Sep 11, 2006 7:50:22 am PDT #1198 of 28134
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Was he reading the Edmund Morris TR biography? Because that's in the TBR stack on my table (not to be confused with the TBR stack by the bed).

Nope. This one is by Kathleen Dalton. We picked it up when we were on vacation in Cape Cod.

I was looking at Gangs of New York. Thanks, JZ.


erikaj - Sep 11, 2006 8:22:53 am PDT #1199 of 28134
Always Anti-fascist!

The movie of that really sucked somehow, but if I knew how, I'd be posting in a bigger house. Casting Cameron Diaz as a hard-living prostitute? Not the Scorsese brilliance at work, though.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2006 8:45:02 am PDT #1200 of 28134
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The movie of that really sucked somehow, but if I knew how, I'd be posting in a bigger house.

It felt like there was another hour that got left on the cutting room floor, for one thing (thanks for nothing, Harvey Scissorhands), but I'm not sure more would have made it any better.

I would love to see a face-off between Bill the Butcher and Al Swearingen, though.

...and now back to the topic of books.


erikaj - Sep 11, 2006 8:48:03 am PDT #1201 of 28134
Always Anti-fascist!

That would be cool, Frank.


Hayden - Sep 11, 2006 8:52:25 am PDT #1202 of 28134
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I was hoping for more of a non-fiction history book

The Triumph of Conservatism by Gabriel Kolko is about TR's collusion with J.P. Morgan to create a regulatory system for natural monopolies. May not sound exciting on the surface, but it's a page-turner.

Also great: C. Vann Woodward's Tom Watson, Agrarian Rebel (about one of the leaders of the Populist Movement in the 1890s), Lawrence Goodwyn's The Populist Moment (a larger view of the same era), Samuel P. Hays's The Response to Industrialism (a bit drier but still interesting), and Robert Wiebe's In Search of Order 1877-1920 is a generally-regarded definitive classic in history circles.