We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Hil R. - Dec 08, 2009 12:52:15 pm PST #10489 of 28370
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure about that. At 13, I loved Rhett Butler, and there are a few similar scenes there.


Katerina Bee - Dec 08, 2009 1:46:09 pm PST #10490 of 28370
Herding cats for fun

But then, I thought Jondalar was HAWT, too.

Heh, heh, heh, heh. My sistah! I'll freely admit that I once thought "Clan of the Cave Bear" ws the best book I'd ever read!!!!


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2009 4:32:45 pm PST #10491 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

At 13, I loved Rhett Butler, and there are a few similar scenes there.

I still love Rhett Butler, despite the rapeyness of the carry-Scarlett-up-the-staircase scene.

Hey, I own my contradictions.


Amy - Dec 08, 2009 4:34:39 pm PST #10492 of 28370
Because books.

I still love Rhett Butler, despite the rapeyness of the carry-Scarlett-up-the-staircase scene.

God, me too. But I do know that when I was younger, the scene that fascinated me was the morning after scene, trying to figure out what all those different expressions on her face could mean.


Hil R. - Dec 08, 2009 4:37:36 pm PST #10493 of 28370
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I didn't see the movie until I was about 15 or 16. But I read the book at 12.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2009 4:37:52 pm PST #10494 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

the scene that fascinated me was the morning after scene, trying to figure out what all those different expressions on her face could mean.

The wow-I-just-had-a-good-fucking scene?

(Which pisses me off more, because it tries to undercut the rapeyness by saying, "No, see, she ended up LIKING it, so it wasn't rape!")

Grumble.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 08, 2009 4:41:58 pm PST #10495 of 28370
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Probably, if I were directing it, I would have tried to cut the rapeyness by making it clear that it was a mutually agreed upon game of theirs or something. But I am the person who directed Grease and found it so problematic I tried to direct around Sandy completly changing herself to get the boy.

ETA: which is not inherent in the text, IMO. It seems like he raped her, and then she liked it. I would have just tried to change it.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2009 4:50:46 pm PST #10496 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm having problems with the song "Baby, It's Cold Outside," also. Because, damn it, SHE SAYS NO.

But I love that song, and I'm annoying my own self by getting my feminist ire on about it.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 08, 2009 4:52:44 pm PST #10497 of 28370
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It is a problematic song, Steph. And I love it too.

I also (I R DUM) just this second realized that Rhett and Scarlett are a model for Chuck and Blair on Gossip Girl.


Amy - Dec 08, 2009 4:52:54 pm PST #10498 of 28370
Because books.

The wow-I-just-had-a-good-fucking scene?

Yeah. I mean, I get it now, but *then* it just intrigued me.

And oddly, when I saw Unfaithful years later, Diane Lane's scene on the train, with all those shifting expressions and emotions, reminded me of it.