Mal: Ready? Zoe: Always.

'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DebetEsse - Sep 11, 2009 4:38:08 pm PDT #10001 of 28385
Woe to the fucking wicked.

But, since they weren't in conflict his own interests and those of the wider world were in agreement, so it's just an additional spur, rather than a complicating factor. It was certainly the more pressing factor for him, but the personal is going to be a better spur.

I agree that yours is the more interesting question. In most fiction, it's phrased more like that Trek episode, where it's "let this one person you like die to SAVE THE WORLD," rather than "the suffering of a group of which you are a member or the suffering of another group"--And it gets even more interesting when you start looking at how equal or not those sufferings are.

That question, actually, now that I think about it, does have very real-world consequences, unlike the purely hypothetical "would you kill Hitler" kind of question. In realistic terms, even public policies with wide upsides have downsides for some group, at least. How do you balance those concerns fairly?


Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2009 6:39:11 pm PDT #10002 of 28385
brillig

For what it's worth, I wouldn't kill Hitler, I'd kill Goering and a couple of other gung-ho supporters.


P.M. Marc - Sep 11, 2009 6:53:07 pm PDT #10003 of 28385
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I should check and see if I have family in Sidney so have a built-in excuse to go.

(I mean, Dad *WAS* born in Duncan. Which isn't THAT far from there.)


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 11, 2009 10:27:04 pm PDT #10004 of 28385
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

In realistic terms, even public policies with wide upsides have downsides for some group, at least. How do you balance those concerns fairly?

That's where it gets really interesting. Especially if you're a social justice campaigner, like me. It costs society something to create equality for disabled people - different kinds of costs, but usually one kind or other. I don't know whether we consider this enough in my campaign groups. It's not a huge concern, but it's one we should consider from time to time. And maybe it should be influencing the directions in which we focus our campaigning, so that we're asking for things which benefit more groups than just us. Some of the time, anyway.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't kill Hitler, I'd kill Goering and a couple of other gung-ho supporters.

Re: the book - that's pretty much its conclusion. That one person's death didn't change much, since others came in to fill his place, and that the success of the Nazi party wasn't dependent on one person. This fits with the 'destiny' theme of the book, but perhaps it should have been obvious to the characters from a bit of reading of history. Except that then, no story. So never mind.


Sparky1 - Sep 12, 2009 7:25:07 am PDT #10005 of 28385
Librarian Warlord

I mean, Dad *WAS* born in Duncan

As was my Aunt!


Steph L. - Sep 13, 2009 2:52:58 pm PDT #10006 of 28385
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Did someone here recommend 13 Bullets to me? I finished it yesterday, and man, that is FUCKED UP. But I can't for the life of me remember where I heard of it to have gotten it from the library.


Barb - Sep 13, 2009 3:19:34 pm PDT #10007 of 28385
“Not dead yet!”

She's a tattoo artist, he's a vampire, together, they fight crime!

No... seriously.

Elle Jasper's THE DARK INK CHRONICLES, pitched as LA INK meets TWILIGHT/LOST BOYS in which a gorgeous, tough-as-nails tattoo artist pairs up with Savannah's unlikely guardian-unpredictable, a sexy vampire, and together they take on a pair of blood-thirsty vampire brothers determined to control the city's youth, to Laura Cifelli at NAL,


Connie Neil - Sep 14, 2009 9:57:36 am PDT #10008 of 28385
brillig

A question about book covers.

I was glancing through the supermarket's collection of current ficton, and I saw more examples of my least favorite trend--decapitated women on the covers of "chick lit". Is it an attempt to appeal to Every Woman, whoever she is? Even if it's not a photo-type picturewith an identifiable person, more often than not there's only a partial person on the cover, generally with her head missing. Potboiler romance novels have a gorgeous woman swooning/mooning around, but other fiction seems to hate having a full human being on the cover. I find it very disturbing.


Barb - Sep 14, 2009 10:04:43 am PDT #10009 of 28385
“Not dead yet!”

I'm not sure what you mean by "chick lit" Connie, since as a genre, it's pretty much gone the way of the dodo bird. Can you recall any of the titles?

And the headless woman/man trend is also very popular in paranormal and historical romance/fiction, although it seems to have been giving way to backs of late.


Gudanov - Sep 14, 2009 10:07:58 am PDT #10010 of 28385
Coding and Sleeping

I going to guess this is photo cropping style decapitation rather than a bloody demise style decapitation since the latter would be weird.