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§ ita § - Apr 17, 2006 8:03:36 am PDT #9644 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Donkey voting isn't the same thing as uninformed voting, it's closer to an intent to register an invalid vote.

And donkey voting is...


Aims - Apr 17, 2006 8:04:25 am PDT #9645 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Walking up to the guy voting before you, punching him int he back of the head and while he's convulsing, stealing his ballot.


P.M. Marc - Apr 17, 2006 8:05:40 am PDT #9646 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Typically you can only vote absentee if you have some reason why you can't make it to the polls on election day.

Really? That must be a your-state thing. IIRC, WA's been talking about making some elections absentee ballot only.


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 8:07:37 am PDT #9647 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And donkey voting is...

Oh, sorry, I defined it earlier on. It's voting straight down the ballot paper (or, if you're feeling inventive, straight up the ballot paper, or I guess some other pattern) as a substitute for voting an actual preference. (It can happen, of course, that voting straight down the paper is your actual preference, which is not a donkey vote, as it would not change were the order on the ballot to be changed.)


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2006 8:08:00 am PDT #9648 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Walking up to the guy voting before you, punching him int he back of the head and while he's convulsing, stealing his ballot.

You are so wrong.

I mean, in the fun way.


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 8:08:48 am PDT #9649 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

IIRC, WA's been talking about making some elections absentee ballot only.

Didn't another state do that? Oregon, maybe?

Walking up to the guy voting before you, punching him int he back of the head and while he's convulsing, stealing his ballot.

I think that would be voting with malice aforethought.

And now I'm imagining you trying to haul a touchscreen voting machine out the door unnoticed.


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2006 8:09:57 am PDT #9650 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's voting straight down the ballot paper

Okay, I get it. I don't see what it has to do with my point--if it's worth avoiding, then isn't it thought to be occurring a significant amount? Or at least to be a risk of polluting the results? And therefore a donkey vote is worth less than a vote you'd cast?


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 8:15:26 am PDT #9651 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Okay, I get it. I don't see what it has to do with my point--if it's worth avoiding, then isn't it thought to be occurring a significant amount? Or at least to be a risk of polluting the results? And therefore a donkey vote is worth less than a vote you'd cast?

What it has to do with your point is that donkey voting isn't an issue of uninformed voters voting. It's closer to voter apathy.

Donkey voting accounts for between 1% and 2% of the vote in Australia, incidentally. Not a huge amount, but obviously it could become significant in marginal seats.


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 8:19:58 am PDT #9652 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ok, it's been fun, but it's past 3 here and I really need to get to bed now. Off to sleep the sleep of the doomed.


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2006 8:20:08 am PDT #9653 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't mean uninformed voters. I meant uninformed votes. And in my semantics, that definitely includes the donkey vote.

Do you know how donkey voting trends? From your description of the inception of compulsory voting, it doesn't sound like Australia would have had the same mindset hurdles you'll get in the US.