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tommyrot - Apr 17, 2006 7:35:54 am PDT #9624 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How long does it take in the US to send off a postal vote?

What's a postal vote? Is that like an absentee ballot?

Typically you can only vote absentee if you have some reason why you can't make it to the polls on election day.


brenda m - Apr 17, 2006 7:37:48 am PDT #9625 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It only takes 15 minutes to vote in Australia?

It's never taken me that long here - how many times are you voting?


tommyrot - Apr 17, 2006 7:40:23 am PDT #9626 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's never taken me that long here - how many times are you voting?

Heh. This is Chicago....

Well, it usually takes me about half an hour. But I was thinking of the people who had to wait in line eight hours to vote....


JohnSweden - Apr 17, 2006 7:40:46 am PDT #9627 of 10001
I can't even.

It only takes 15 minutes to vote in Australia?
Can we have that system?

When I lived in the burbs, it was maybe that long, not including the 5 minute drive to the church or school where the polling station was.

Less now that I live in deep population density-land, because they put a polling station in my building.

Voter turnout is steadily dropping in Canadia, as well, however. Down to 60% or so, last couple of elections.


Jessica - Apr 17, 2006 7:42:36 am PDT #9628 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's never taken me more than 5 minutes to vote, but I (a) live across the street from my polling place and (b) vote first thing in the morning, before I go to work. I'm sure mandatory voting would mean longer lines, though.


Fred Pete - Apr 17, 2006 7:43:40 am PDT #9629 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I waited in line for 30-45 minutes at my suburban polling station in 2004. So it can take more than 15 minutes.


Calli - Apr 17, 2006 7:45:09 am PDT #9630 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

It's taken me 20 minutes at the most to vote in Durham, NC. And that includes driving to and from the school where I do the voting.

They handle the voting in the school's library for the off-year elections. The last time I voted there, they had the table with the ballots under a big sign that said, "Fiction".


ChiKat - Apr 17, 2006 7:48:10 am PDT #9631 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

It's taken me anywhere from 5 to 45 minutes to vote depending on the lines.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 17, 2006 7:48:17 am PDT #9632 of 10001
What is even happening?

I would like to see the national elections made a major holiday, with no work, so that more people can vote more easily. I'd like to see companies have to give paid time off to people (an hour or whatever) to vote in their local elections. I would like to see registration standardized and simplified, nation-wide. I would like to see all sorts of improvements in this area.

I want to see voting be easier for those who don't vote because it poses some sort of problem (work conflicts, transportation, difficulty in registering and/or reaching the polling place--whatever). But compelling someone to vote nearly feels like a First Amendment violation to me.


billytea - Apr 17, 2006 7:48:52 am PDT #9633 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

What I mean by "worse" is the idea that if I have to show up (because I'm not going to pay up) and I'm no more informed that I was before voting was mandatory what good is my vote then? At what point does your voter turnout actually vote based on something other than primacy or euphonious names, or perceived ethnic heritage, or a bunch of other things that are unrelated to platform? How long before the voters become even vaguely educated? Also, is random voting more likely than simply spoiling a ballot?

Oh. In that case, your issue is a furphy. I don't support any argument which relies on saying someone else's vote is less valuable than mine. Hell, over half of the voters in 2004 voted for Bush. Aside from my personal biases on the issue, there've been studies linked to on these boards indicating that a majority of them didn't actually know his platform. I don't know how this played on the Democratic side, but non-compulsory voting is a poor indicator of informed voting.

What's a postal vote? Is that like an absentee ballot?

Yep. What's the rationale for limiting postal voting in America? Does it involve more work, or is it the delay in getting a result, or something else?

When did Australia institute mandatory voting? Do you have turnout numbers from just before then until the numbers started levelling out?

It was introduced in 1924. The notion of so many soldiers dying in WWI to defend "the Australian way" played into it. The turnout at the previous election (1922) was under 60%, the one subsequent (1925) was over 90%.