Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Spike's Bitches 29: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cass - Feb 22, 2006 11:53:58 pm PST #704 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

The thing with going to bed super early? You wake up. And instead of it being 3 or 4 and obviously time to be asleep so you lie in bed awake for a while until hopefully going back to sleep? Well, I'm posting...

I'm afraid to say, my daughter would probably say the same thing about me, for I am your mother, Teppy. She despairs of me.
This possibly describes mine as well. But I adore her far more than I despair of her.

There is a place in LA that has a bacon, peanut butter and swiss burger called the menage a trois.
I'm sorry, but peanut butter on a hamburger just sounds like ten kinds of wrong.
I'd actually ordered it to be what I thought to be saucy (I was barely 18, what did I know?) but it was good. The peanut butter was served in a little container on the side, or maybe I had asked for it that way, like ranch or something and as I dabbed bits on it on the burger? Teh yum. And thus I converted from ordering something to seem "daring" to just having a damn good burger. Which is not to convert others.

Still, it does bother me. Because I don't think knowing how to defend yourself ensures you won't be abused.
I don't think women, or men, that are abused are all unable to physically defend themselves. Which means that even strong people can be abused. So it would be nice if someone asked the, "You okay?" in a real way. Unless people like my doctor are looking for other signs than just the fearsome bruises and we just don't show one of those. It's certainly not shame cause sometimes I am loathe to admit how I managed to mangle myself so well.

In what is actually other news, the last round with the creepy stalker woman made me realize that some self-defense training is something I want to try. I just have to get over my fear that I am so badly coordinated that I will fail and actually try. Because even my fears realize that I can learn the self-defensey part. I am just not sure how well I would do if I then wanted to get into actually learning it as an art. A smarter person would just go to a class and find out.

A smarter person would also be asleep though. It is pretty well established that I am not that smarter person.


Trudy Booth - Feb 23, 2006 12:16:20 am PST #705 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

A smarter person would also be asleep though.

Just because its five o'clock in the morning? P'shaw.

My great "take a five day weekend and clean the fuck out of the house" plan worked -- I was just off by about half a day. Which I am doing now. OK, half a night. Or a whole night -- which is like half a day. No, I'm not getting punchy. I AM glad that Cabil is coming or I'd have given up and gone to bed. And then the house wouldn't be done. And that would be sad. So in another couple of hours I'm going to take a nice Lushy shower and go to work and make this a true blue all-nighter because that's just the gal I am (and its silly to get two hours sleep anyway and everybody knows that).


Trudy Booth - Feb 23, 2006 12:18:41 am PST #706 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm watching this thing on Reconstruction. This one guy, Whatever Morston III is entirely too smug and proud of his ancestors' various crimes.


Trudy Booth - Feb 23, 2006 12:26:53 am PST #707 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Still, it does bother me. Because I don't think knowing how to defend yourself ensures you won't be abused.

I don't think its a matter of physical ability at all (well, other than in the immediate sense during a particular attack). It's very much a mental place that tolerates ongoing abuse. I don't mean "tolerates" as in "oh, this is ok, honest"... hmm... this is not coming out well. I mean some people would simply never stay in that situation and Cass is one of them. Most adult people, even, would not stay in that situation. The vast majority of people I would think. I'm just babbling now. I'll go spray some bubbles.


Cass - Feb 23, 2006 12:31:21 am PST #708 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

So in another couple of hours I'm going to take a nice Lushy shower and go to work and make this a true blue all-nighter because that's just the gal I am (and its silly to get two hours sleep anyway and everybody knows that).
Enjoy the Lushness and your very clean house.

I slammed some Benedryl because I am obviously allergic to breathing. It might lead to sleeping again. Not as a side effect of the Benedryl so much as a side effect of breathing without dripping.

Actual wolverines? Look nothing like I expected them to look. Or like Hugh Jackman for that matter.


Cass - Feb 23, 2006 12:39:31 am PST #709 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I mean some people would simply never stay in that situation and Cass is one of them.
When I was 16/17, I had a boyfriend who was verbally abusive. Actually abusive.

And it wasn't the obvious thing to walk away. I mean, it was once I got my head around it and then I got the hell out of there fast but it wasn't just a gut reaction the first time it happened.

He didn't hit me but I don't know if I would have reacted any faster if he had.

I know that *now* I would be out the door immediately though. And that is good knowledge to have.


Trudy Booth - Feb 23, 2006 12:47:39 am PST #710 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I know that *now* I would be out the door immediately though. And that is good knowledge to have.

I think it has a learning curve to it, in lots of ways we hopefully aren't the same people we were at 17.

At 19 I was hit once and told him if it happened a second time he'd never see me again. A few months later it did and I was true to my word. At the time "it was an argument, we were really going at it" seemed sufficient for me to give him a second chance -- now I doubt it would. I've learned lots of things since learning that being back-handed involves looking up at the ceiling and thinking "holy shit, he just back-handed me" and THEN "shit, that hurts."


Cass - Feb 23, 2006 12:55:38 am PST #711 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

in lots of ways we hopefully aren't the same people we were at 17.
I'm glad for this in a LOT of ways.

It is amusing, and a little irritating, when shows talk about how certain critters shouldn't be able to fly while they are showing the thing flying. Say we don't know how they do it? Sure. But that they can't? Not so much, it's just we haven't figured it out yet.

Sniffles are waxing and waning. Going to see if I can go back to sleep now.


Fay - Feb 23, 2006 1:20:44 am PST #712 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Hey, Hec! Welcome back. Am sitting listening to an endless loop of the Jazzy Fay mix in my new room at work. For the third day in a row.

Thank you!


Anne W. - Feb 23, 2006 1:54:14 am PST #713 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Somebody should name their band that: GA Whitefont.

I think naming the next Natter thread "GA Whitefont" would be amusing.

Speaking of whitefonted shows, I managed to get hooked on PR over the weekend.