I believe I can say I've read "chan" because I've read a number of Buffyfics where Buffy is underage and sleeping with an adult

When it's canon, it seems odd to think a ficwriter would be in more danger than Joss himself.

If someone has breasts and hips and is menstruating? (Or male of equivalent sexual maturity?) Not a child any more. There may be a whole heap of moral issues still in place wrt older people in positions of power having sexual relations with them, because of the relative power yada yada yada - but still, they're not children, imho.

Okay, got that.

There are a LOT of Snape/Harry stories out there, and the concept of Snape fancying 11 year old Harry and being vile to him from the word go because of displaced desire is sufficiently commonplace to pass unremarked, as far as I can gather.

Although I've had male friends who lost their virginity as young as 12, it was to girls only a couple years older than them. It's still a little younger than I would prefer to see someone becoming sexually active, buts it's understandable (to me) within the realm of "normal" human sexuality. The Snape/Harry-at-11 is just downright squicksome. So, I can see where the lines are being drawn here and I have to agree with that.

I have no way of establishing whether my fears are groundless, and maybe this is just a bit of a sore spot for me.

But he was paving the way to more and more unacceptable things being accepted, and (did he but know of their existence) Harry Potter stories would be a bloody good way of going about it, and would have fitted in with the pattern of secret keeping and suchlike that he'd got going on. These people are sneaky, sneaky, evil, opportunistic fuckers, and they use the 'net.

I can definitely see your concern. The safety of the children you're teaching is one of your primary imperatives. That's to be commended. But, maybe since I've lived in the US all my life, where anyone who wants to can own a gun, I kind of see the ability to post chan on the internet as being a gun seller. The person who buys the gun and what they do with it is not the seller's responsibility. We still have laws, though, as to who can buy a gun. It's a peculiarly American point of view, I'm guessing, but it's what I was raised with and so informs my decision making processes.

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When it's canon, it seems odd to think a ficwriter would be in more danger than Joss himself.

And that's just it. At least in the Buffyverse, how can we hold a fic writer culpable when we don't Joss? But, then, some people do hold Joss culpable, I'm just not one of them and they weren't powerful enough to get Joss banned from network TV. Who knows what we'd find in fic today if Joss had ultimately got yanked from TV thanks to the parent groups that protested?

There are a LOT of Snape/Harry stories out there, and the concept of Snape fancying 11 year old Harry and being vile to him from the word go because of displaced desire is sufficiently commonplace to pass unremarked, as far as I can gather.

Though, I hasten to add, not all Snape/Harry stories have anything at all to do with 11-year-old Harry. Not to say there aren't issues of age and power being dealt with, just that they're not usually pedophilic issues (so to speak).

I hasten to add, not all Snape/Harry stories have anything at all to do with 11-year-old Harry

Sorry, yes, should have said that.

And that's just it. At least in the Buffyverse, how can we hold a fic writer culpable when we don't Joss? But, then, some people do hold Joss culpable, I'm just not one of them and they weren't powerful enough to get Joss banned from network TV. Who knows what we'd find in fic today if Joss had ultimately got yanked from TV thanks to the parent groups that protested?

Of course, network TV has money and lawyers behind it. It's much easier, comparatively, to hold fic writers culpable. Particularly in more pairing-oriented stories, where the 'literary merit' argument is harder to make.

It's much easier, comparatively, to hold fic writers culpable

I don't think (witness my naivete, if you will) that laws get to do that.

In theory, if Joss had been a crap writer (no literary merit doesn't seem to prevent folk from mass media), he should be no more or less culpable than a brilliant pro writer, or a brilliant ficwriter.

It's much easier, comparatively, to hold fic writers culpable. Particularly in more pairing-oriented stories, where the 'literary merit' argument is harder to make.

Yeah, gotta agree with that. Hell of a shame as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think (witness my naivete, if you will) that laws get to do that.

I'm just as naive. I don't think they do here in the US, but it sounds like Australia has taken steps to put certain forms of literature under ban that I'm not sure that the US has. Our pornography laws deal with photographs/drawing/pictorial representations of child porn, not literature that I know of. Emily might be able to fill in the blanks there, since she's the one who posted the Australian links.

Am I right that the word "chan" is Japanese? I've seen it appended to names, like a diminutive of -san. I think it means, like cute-little-thing or something. I was not aware the word had been appropriated to mean adult/child sexual fic; although I gather that older/younger pairings are rather common in manga. (Not usually parent-age/child-age, unless I miss by guess, but for some reason many of the pairings have a substantial age-differential.)