Out. For. A. Walk. ... Bitch.

Spike ,'Selfless'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Deena - Aug 17, 2004 8:35:26 am PDT #8842 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

In my tiny mind:
smut=bodice ripper;
erotica=literary porn, not always nice;
porn=unnaturally big breasted women or uncannily well-endowed, but otherwise boring-as-toast, men doing tacky and not at all arousing for the very tackiness things, all enhanced by an excess of gratuitious genitalia shots or description, topped with unbelieveable plot, settings,and characterization.

I seem to have become addicted to the Michael/Nikita thing (I wonder what made me think of that?). Is there more we could snark at, Dana?


Katie M - Aug 17, 2004 8:38:33 am PDT #8843 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

But Katie, women aren't supposed to enjoy porn, let alone produce it.

I do have to admit that I spend some energy reminding myself of this in the Wider World. ("Oops, can't say that to the co-workers...")


Dana - Aug 17, 2004 8:39:50 am PDT #8844 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Nothing terribly entertaining, although there's promise in the new story she's started. This makes her third in progress, and it's a co-written version of a really terrible movie that Roy Dupuis starred in. They've promised to take out the cannibalism and inbreeding, but leave in the sex.


Fay - Aug 17, 2004 8:40:22 am PDT #8845 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

If there are positive emotions (doesn't need to be love/like is ok) it's erotica. Just nasty manipulative sex is porn.

Yes, I do think this is ridiculous. There don't have to be positive emotions going on, either love or like - but then, angsty conflicted angry push-pull of unwilling desire sex pretty much delivers a round house kick to my kink buttons and fuses them, so I would say that. Er.

It's about language, isn't it? 'Cause I prefer the word 'porn' to smut or erotica, much as I generally prefer to use the word 'cock' rather than 'manhood' or 'sex' etc etc.

I think maybe all I mean is - if it's badly written, it's (with the negative connotation) just porn. If it's well written, it's not. Whether teh sex is a positive or a negative expression of the characters' emotions or desires is neither here nor there in terms of whether it pings me as 'just' porn.

....but in practical terms I do generally just use 'porn' to mean stories in which people's rude bits get some quality time with bare skin.


amych - Aug 17, 2004 8:40:55 am PDT #8846 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

They've promised to take out the cannibalism and inbreeding, but leave in the sex.

Well, at least they have standards.


Connie Neil - Aug 17, 2004 8:41:15 am PDT #8847 of 10000
brillig

I'm saving that reply up for when I'm annoyed at being interrupted by "What are you writing?" "Porn." Though normally I wimp and say "My journal." Journal's are very respectable in the Mormon worldview.


Fay - Aug 17, 2004 8:44:35 am PDT #8848 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I do have to admit that I spend some energy reminding myself of this in the Wider World. ("Oops, can't say that to the co-workers...")

Was it Ellen who recounted the dangers of fanfic/realworld collision with her tale of a conversation with a co-worker which went something like:

Co-Worker: How's it going?

Buffista: Stupid work. All I've been doing is reading gay porn on the interenet all day.

Co-Worker: ......

Buffista thinks: ....ooops


Deena - Aug 17, 2004 8:44:44 am PDT #8849 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Cannibalism, inbreeding and sex, a trifecta of fun, and they're killing the first two. Seems a shame. I'm pretty sure she couldn't make it sound any worse than the sex does.


Dana - Aug 17, 2004 8:45:39 am PDT #8850 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The thought of how she would describe the cannibalism is actually making me a little queasy.


Theodosia - Aug 17, 2004 8:50:42 am PDT #8851 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sounds like comedy gold to me....