Anya ,'Dirty Girls'
This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.
'Cause I don't watch Andromeda, but I happened across it this pm whilst frantically vaccuming the cat to avoid essay writing, and sweet weeping mother of God, he could make me give up girls entirely.
Fay, you made me laugh undignifiedly, in the middle of which I just spit on myself. COMMing you.
Shoot. Too late. Darn you, o you who saw Fay's brilliance before I got here!
That was creepy, I agree.
In other news,
Oh sweet fucking hell, I like this series. Serenity! It's the Gayest Ship in the Sky!
That is the latest, and it's full of excellent River narration. The first is at
Now, it takes its place with hoax sites, blogs, hypertext fiction, PhotoShop manipulation and certain types of viruses as a legitimate form of contemporary culture.
Uh...okay.
Professor Henry Jenkins, director of media studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told The New York Times that "if you go back, the key stories we told ourselves were stories that were important to everyone and belonged to everyone. Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by the folk."
Isn't that last sentence a direct quote from Textual Poachers?
Stop capitalizing slash!
There's also pornographic fanfic out there but, surprisingly, it's much less common than Slash.
Goddamnit, slash *is* fanfic. It's a subgenre of fanfic. It's not some freak cousin. And I might question "much less common". MSR alone has to make a big dent in the het NC-17 category.
In October, FanFiction.Net stopped hosting R-rated fiction.
No, they stopped hosting NC-17 fic and RPF.
My favourite sub-grouping is Mary Sue fanfic
Since when is it a subgrouping?
Fanfic lore has it that every time a new writer comes to the hobby, the first thing she does is write herself into the plot.
No, that's only the bad writers. t /bitch
Okay. Done with the traditional ripping apart of the article. At least there wasn't much mocking.
Yup. What Dana said. It was better than most, but really. I honestly don't think anyone but someone who's been in fandom longer than a day could write a really good article on fanfiction and slash. There is simply too much people who are not in fandom don't understand, things that come from just being in fandom for a period of time.
I was impressed with the lack of mocking. And it seemed to me that the author of the article didn't try to say "These are the 8 reasons that people write fanfic." It seemed more like the author said "These are *some of* the reasons people write fanfic."
I didn't think it was bad, as far as articles about fanfic go.
I didn't think it was bad, as far as articles about fanfic go.
No, it wasn't. Believe me, I'm glad about the general lack of mocking (although now it's apparently the rage to focus on HP slash, which isn't a great thing for many reasons). But just *once*, I'd like an article that didn't contain at least one factual error.
Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by the folk.
I like this statement, even if I don't agree with it 100%. I think there is some truth to it--look at the Buffista rewrite of "Spiral," for example.
The article seemed pretty positive, for the most part. I noticed many of the same errors that Dana did, but they're the sort of errors that show that the author at least tried to do his/her research thoroughly.
On edit: That said, I also agree that it would be nice to see an article without those sort of errors. I wonder if we could talk erinaceous into writing a piece?
..and yeah, if that's not a direct quote from Textual Poachers, it's a direct quote from Henry Jenkins paraphrasing himself.
I don't know. By its very nature, any article on fanfic will be couched as a [perhaps gentle, often mildly erroneous] expose. A news article about people with a passion for miniature trains probably get the same treatment and the hobbyists feel the same way.
Not that there's such a thing as train porn. And if there were, it would be totally okay and not open to psychoanalysis and I'd get my terms right before I went to press.
I think that fanfiction gets a bad rap for several reasons. First of all there are the popular misconceptions about fic and fic writers:
Then, there are other issues, such as the sticky ones about copyright, intellectual property, etc. and so forth. Also, I think that the fact that most fic is read from the internet vs. from a printed book makes it seem less legitimate to many people. I think it's also hard for Americans to understand why someone would write something that couldn't be copyrighted or generate royalties.
In Japan, IIRC, fan written and drawn manga (doujinshi) are permitted by the publishing companies. These things are bought and sold at conventions and in comic shops. The owners of the original series apparently look at these things as a form of free marketing. I know that I've gotten hooked on several anime and television series thanks to fanfiction and fan sites.