What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Elena - Feb 05, 2004 10:23:47 pm PST #7183 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

How do I make tab A, happening on camera, fit into the slot A2 I've created before the camera starts rolling on Slot B, which is likely directly connected to tab A by the story that's been filmed?

This just screams porn. And, having read your Lilah/Faith, I believe that's how you meant it to read.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 06, 2004 4:30:45 am PST #7184 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Fanfic-- IMHO-- can be imitation, but at its best it is a form of transformation: sometimes obviously, transformation from one media to another or transformation of canon pairings or characterisations to new ones, but more subtly as well, transformation from one author's voice and world-view to another, without changing the voices of the characters.

Plain imitation can be part of that, depending what the author wishes to transform. If you want to transform Draco Malfoy in Sherlock Holmes or for that matter Philip Marlowe, it works best to take the characters as they are and change the tone and style of your writing. If, on the other hand, you want to transform J.K. Rowling's view of Draco-son-of-Eeevil into your own Draco-fluffy-bunny, it works best to use J.K. Rowling's style and tell a new story-- or it can. There are as many variations as there are voices.


vw bug - Feb 06, 2004 5:46:22 am PST #7185 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

Wow. Thank you everyone for your thoughts. If you have more, please feel free to share them. I've bookmarked the beginning of this conversation, and will come back to it, and read it even more carefully, when I start writing my paper. I'll probably have more questions as I go too...but I've got to get into the actual writing first.


Connie Neil - Feb 06, 2004 7:06:09 am PST #7186 of 10000
brillig

actual writing

pfft, the actual writing is over-rated, it's much more fun to discuss it endlessly.

Hey, it's been a long week, and I'm trying to trick my Muse into cooperating this weekend instead of be-bopping off to Bimini.


Deena - Feb 06, 2004 7:35:52 am PST #7187 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Pfft, Elena. You have a naughty mind. Which, now that I think about it, is a good thing. I didn't intend that to sound porny, but considering that I was thinking of the Lilah/Faith at the time, I guess it might have been my smutty subconscious (rather than my smutty conscious mind) taking over.

eta: Okay, and I didn't mean to pfft. Obviously I'm a big sponge, soaking up anything I see.


vw bug - Feb 06, 2004 7:41:27 am PST #7188 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

Ok...new question...

This is just for survey sake...

What's the highest level of education you've had? (this doesn't really matter...and I don't think I'm going to use it...it's more curiosity...)

Did you do any *formal* (and by that I mean did you have assignments in school at any level) that required you to imitate a writer? Actually, I think I'm going to ask this question in Natter too. I'm interested in how wide-spread this kind of assignment is.


Deena - Feb 06, 2004 7:46:14 am PST #7189 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I have a Masters in English and I never had an assignment to imitate another writer, even in my creative writing courses.


Dana - Feb 06, 2004 7:47:39 am PST #7190 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What's the highest level of education you've had? (this doesn't really matter...and I don't think I'm going to use it...it's more curiosity...)

I'm in my second semester of grad school.

Did you do any *formal* (and by that I mean did you have assignments in school at any level) that required you to imitate a writer?

Not yet, but I'm being threatened with it later this semester in my non-fiction writing class.


vw bug - Feb 06, 2004 7:48:20 am PST #7191 of 10000
Mostly lurking...

but I'm being threatened with it later this semester in my non-fiction writing class.

It's not as bad as it sounds. I thought I would hate it, but I actually found it kind of fun.


erikaj - Feb 06, 2004 8:07:14 am PST #7192 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

I think so. In creative writing. Ray Carver, iirc. (I shouldn't call him that, like we kick it, or something. We'd have to be in a hellmouth...Carver's dead.) I've had many writing classes. A couple of teachers have told me that imitation is a necessary stage for writers starting out, vw. But only one ever really asked me to.