Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Holli - Jan 26, 2004 11:28:21 am PST #7089 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

A.J. Hall was blacklisted for linking to our own Fay's Invisible to See, which *is* explicit.

Oddly, Fay has not been blacklisted, but I guess we can put the down to the people behind the blacklist being crayzeee.


§ ita § - Jan 26, 2004 11:28:29 am PST #7090 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there a list of the sites they're going to target?


Micole - Jan 26, 2004 11:29:55 am PST #7091 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

There wouldn't be much point in reporting A.J. Hall and Fay to federal agencies for violating COPPA, since neither of them are American ...

... wait, am I applying too much logic to the crazy people again?


Nutty - Jan 26, 2004 11:30:07 am PST #7092 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Huh. That's an egomaniacal site. I mean, a silly, wrong-headed site, but primarily what strikes me is the egomania.

I wonder what 'federal agency' advised these people, because yeah, I have yet to see COPA do anything but molder in the Library of Congress archives.


Dana - Jan 26, 2004 11:30:18 am PST #7093 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ah, thanks, Holli. I think I knew that, but I tried so hard to forget that these idiots existed...


Lyra Jane - Jan 26, 2004 11:30:27 am PST #7094 of 10000
Up with the sun

the people

I seriously think it's *one* person, possibly the arabe1la who's credited with starting the "movement." The entries switch back and forth between "I" and "We," which suggests to me that it's an "I" thing. Possibly an "I" with a few friends being vaguely supportive, but a one-person movement.


Micole - Jan 26, 2004 11:31:44 am PST #7095 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Point. I'm kind of suspicious of the whole thing starting up again once the initial furor broke down, which does support the idea that it's one egomaniac masquerading as a movement.


askye - Jan 26, 2004 11:32:25 am PST #7096 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

If Fandom scruples had any backbone at all they'd put their names up. AND put a contact address. Right now the only way to add any websites to be blacklisted is if you are friended.

It's the worst kind of vile ness out there.


Consuela - Jan 26, 2004 11:35:31 am PST #7097 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I take it that means that a 'don't go here if you are underage' is good enough.

No, they've said expressly they mean unpassworded NC-17 fic. So if it's explicit and a kid could get to it without making a formal statement that he's over 17, you're on the list.

This is the sort of behavior that makes me grind my teeth. Fannish porn is labeled and behind cut tags. You can't just stumble onto accidentally, unlike the explicit porn that gets dumped into my email box every day. Why isn't this Arbiter of Fannish Morality going after the porn-spammers instead?


Lyra Jane - Jan 26, 2004 11:40:46 am PST #7098 of 10000
Up with the sun

Right now the only way to add any websites to be blacklisted is if you are friended.

And if you look, no one on their friends list has friended them back. They might be commenting anyhow, of course, but my guess? Is that they have nothing or very little to do with the concept, and are just waiting the crazy person out.