The next time you decide to stab me in the back... have the guts to do it to my face.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Fay - Oct 28, 2002 4:54:24 pm PST #666 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Blake's 7 fanfic springs to mind as a fandom that's still alive and kicking and having slash fanfic conventions despite the fact that the show went off air decades ago. I know there's Dr Who as well - Kalima has some lovely Dr Who stories over at fanfiction net (and she's also published one Dr Who novel, co-authored with some chap) and it's, what, a dozen years since Dr Who was on air. And of course due South - that's finished, hasn't it? t / uncertain

eta Woooh! Accidental number whore of Babylon! Go Team Me!


Rio - Oct 28, 2002 4:57:00 pm PST #667 of 10000
Are you ready to be strong?

Thanks so much, you guys.


Dana - Oct 28, 2002 5:24:09 pm PST #668 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Any websites besides fanfiction.net that my friend should be looking at?

If your friend wants the quality stuff, no way he should look at ff.net.

For Trek, try the Trekiverse archive, which I think is at trekiverse.org.

For X-Files, there's Gossamer, which is gossamer.org.

For Due South, there's the Due South Fiction Archive.

Those are all big fandoms for shows no longer on the air. (Except for Enterprise, the current Trek.) There are tons of others.

Rio, please tell me your friend is going to write an article that doesn't mock fan fic or get half the details wrong.


Rio - Oct 28, 2002 5:47:39 pm PST #669 of 10000
Are you ready to be strong?

He is a really smart and sweet person whose jouralism is not based on mocking people or encouranging others to mock them. I can't imagine he'd write anything mean or stupid.


Dana - Oct 28, 2002 5:53:05 pm PST #670 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

The entire community is pretty gun-shy about this...well, that's not the right word. It's just that these articles are almost always someone on the outside, looking at the strange group of people, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, we've all seen mistakes too often. Conflating fan fiction with slash. Insisting that all slash is darkfic. Focusing only on the stuff that's prurient in some way.

I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on your friend. I'd love to see the article when it comes out.


Rio - Oct 28, 2002 5:54:43 pm PST #671 of 10000
Are you ready to be strong?

I know, Dana. I've seen those "ha ha, what freaks!" articles about fanfic.


Consuela - Oct 28, 2002 6:31:19 pm PST #672 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Even when they're not "what freaks" there's generally a tone of amused condescension that comes through. I'd love for someone to write an article with recognition that people have been doing this for centuries, and all the internet has done is allow us to share these stories.

The one danger is to come up with explanations for why people write it -- because there's no one reason for it, and making sweeping generalizations about it always ends up pissing someone off.


Connie Neil - Oct 28, 2002 6:58:14 pm PST #673 of 10000
brillig

I can think of nothing more educational for a writer than fanfic. Immediate feedback from an impassioned--and around here very intelligent--audience. I suppose getting hooked up with a top-flight professional editor would be better, but I'm going out on a limb and say most writers don't get to take advantage of a situation like that.

YWriterEducationMV


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 28, 2002 9:41:39 pm PST #674 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Hey, I have this idea to present to Tom Devaney, the master of all stuff at the Writers House, that he should bring a program about *fic* for the WH next fall. Have a fun mini-lecture thing, a reading, bring some big names to the House for dinner. I'm going to present it to him as this vast underground moment that's been growing, recently, in the popular/academic eye. I'm very serious about it-- I'm going to come out as a ficcer to the Penn lit people; I'm going to write this bigass paper.

It'd be like a con, but supported by an ivy-league university!


Consuela - Oct 28, 2002 10:12:47 pm PST #675 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I can think of nothing more educational for a writer than fanfic.

Word, Connie. I learned a hell of a lot more through writing and editing fic than I did in my one formal creative writing class (at an Ivy League institution, no less).

But that's not the content, it's the process. Fic is in many ways about community -- fic is how I engage with a show, and how I engage with a fandom. I leave to others the intense 30K character analyses and symbolic explications. Me, I write fic.