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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 27, 2003 7:58:58 am PDT #5653 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

And I think it's rather-- I wouldn't have said obvious, but I would have said has fairly fertile ground from canon (which is nearly what you mean, I think), which is what makes it exciting for me.

What I'm struggling with is that some pairings which have fertile canon ground-- say, Spike/Angel(us), or Willow/Fred-- are exciting to me, where Buffy/Willow isn't. It's... odd, and I'm trying to articulate why.


Rebecca Lizard - Jun 27, 2003 7:59:02 am PDT #5654 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

One, Angel/Lindsey is not obvious

"It's not me you want to screw."


brenda m - Jun 27, 2003 7:59:05 am PDT #5655 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

"It's not me you really want to screw."

But I guess I'll accept the 'eye of the beholder' clause.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2003 7:59:09 am PDT #5656 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Angel/Lindsey is just as obvious as Buffy/Faith -- but that doesn't mean I find both of them inevitable (I see what points to B/F, I just don't feel it).

Any pairing in a good writer's hands can be magic. And I'm trying to only read good writers. There isn't a scenario (see Herself's and PMM's "badfic") that's broken, in my books. It's just the instantiations that may tend to be.


brenda m - Jun 27, 2003 8:00:31 am PDT #5657 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heh. X-post.

But I do agree that the idea of Buffy/Willow leaves me totally flat. I haven't thought about why, though, as you obviously have.


Steph L. - Jun 27, 2003 8:03:11 am PDT #5658 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

One, Angel/Lindsey is not obvious

Am-Chau, I think YMdefinitelyV on this, because a whole hell of a LOT of people think it is.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 27, 2003 8:03:26 am PDT #5659 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

"It's not me you want to screw."

So says Darla. Who is crazy, and untrustworthy, and generally... Darla. I don't see it, except in rare fic; I don't believe her, generally speaking.

Edit: Yes, Steph. I did conceed that at the end of my post. YMV. Enough.

Any pairing in a good writer's hands can be magic. And I'm trying to only read good writers.

You sane, sane person. I still occasionally get grabbed by a pairing and Google for it.


P.M. Marc - Jun 27, 2003 8:04:32 am PDT #5660 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I don't find obvious boring in the slightest.

Buffy/Faith, while generally poorly written, has a ton of potential. Clark/Lex? Hell yeah.

Blair/Jim (cue theme music in the other room)? Give momma some sugar.

It all depends on the writing. I have to be able to believe it, and in that sense, wildly UC pairings have more to prove to me, the reader, than less wildly UC pairings do.

A writer would have to work *harder* to convince me of Buffy/Willow than of Buffy/Faith, because except for Faith, Buffy has never seemed attracted to another woman, and Buffy/Willow would seem creepy and incesty. (I'm going to ignore that I've written Buffy/Willow, because that was a remix, and it made sense at the time.)


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2003 8:04:42 am PDT #5661 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So says Darla. Who is crazy

She wasn't at the time, though, was she?


Katie M - Jun 27, 2003 8:05:26 am PDT #5662 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

The more canon/conventional the ship the more likely I am to want to read about it, usually, but Buffy/Willow is one of those pairings that makes me go "Buh?" Kind of like Spike/Xander, except with that one I have actual logical arguments and B/W I just feel very very confused.

Buffy/Faith I like. Angel/Lindsey I ought to like, but it doesn't do it for me, probably because I'm not big on enemy slash. (Mulder/Krycek doesn't work for me either, outside of the porny aspects.)