Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Lyra Jane - May 01, 2003 11:48:55 am PDT #5272 of 10000
Up with the sun

Plagiarism scares me. Thanks for the explanations.

When I was reading the rants, I assumed it was like the Cassandra Claire case, where someone took sections of a published work and claimed this as new. This sounds more like it's about copying without permission and general asswipery.


Dana - May 01, 2003 11:51:08 am PDT #5273 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And in an abrupt subject change, I've been tossing around the idea of starting a Velvet Goldmine fic archive since Lipstick Traces seems to have disappeared into the ether.

What are you, nuts? (she said, affectionately). That archive never came back, huh? grumble grumble impermanency of the net mumble.

The Wall of Shame thing bothers me only so much as it doesn't seem to distinguish between people who were just freaking ignorant, and people who were malicious. It wouldn't have occurred to me to take clips from people's vids, but only because I honestly hadn't ever thought about it, so the one poor schmuck who's up there, and who has taken down all the stuff he had up, does seem to be kind of pilloried.

The whole thing's more symbolic than anything else, but I definitely understand the perspective of those who are participating.


shrift - May 01, 2003 12:08:11 pm PDT #5274 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

What are you, nuts?

Yes. Quite. Although if I thought I could get someone else to maintain it, I'd just offer the webspace.

That archive never came back, huh?

Hasn't yet, doesn't seem like to, no.

And while I totally support the purpose of Gray Day, I have some problems.

If I don't participate, people are going to be mad at me.

If I do participate, people are going to be really mad at me.

I'd also have to spend the night at work in order to restore everything after the 24 hours were up. I don't have broadband at home, and we're not talking about a handful of files, not to mention reconfiguring the software.

Just thinking about it makes me need a really stiff drink.


P.M. Marc - May 01, 2003 12:13:50 pm PDT #5275 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Shrift, can you just add a paragraph to the index pages of your sites stating that you support the principle behind it, although you are not participating yourself because of technical restrictions?


shrift - May 01, 2003 12:31:14 pm PDT #5276 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

It's a thought, and one I'll have to spend some time pondering...


Michele T. - May 01, 2003 12:33:46 pm PDT #5277 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Shrift, assuming you're running Apache, it's really easy to set it up to reroute the links to archive.shriftweb org.

In the shriftweb config --

t virtualhost *
servername archive.shriftweb.org
redirectmatch permanent .* [link]
/ virtualhost

There's also a way to do this using IIS. The only key is being able to munge the server config file -- my techie friend says if you're running Apache he can talk you through it, or if it's IIS he can look it up.


shrift - May 01, 2003 12:36:30 pm PDT #5278 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Shrift, assuming you're running Apache, it's really easy to set it up to reroute the links to archive.shriftweb org.

Assuming I've ever done it before. (Edit: That's a slam on my skills, by the way. It's a good idea.)

Thanks for the suggestion, though -- I'll look into it. I might have the access to do that.


Michele T. - May 01, 2003 12:37:26 pm PDT #5279 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I edited the above to say I can get you talked through it by my friend who has mighty web mojo. IM me: misha tepper if you want his contact info.


shrift - May 01, 2003 1:13:49 pm PDT #5280 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Hmm. I think I may have found a viable redirect solution using .htaccess -- thanks for poking my uncaffeinated brain, Michele.


bitterchick - May 01, 2003 1:19:11 pm PDT #5281 of 10000

If I don't participate, people are going to be mad at me.

If I do participate, people are going to be really mad at me.

Don'tcha just love fandom? It's so...insane.

BTW - In case anyone was wondering, my fire sale is proof that I'm not a fan. Apparently, I was wrong when I thought it was proof of my current financial hardship. Who knew?