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'War Stories'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

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Gus - Mar 15, 2003 6:29:16 pm PST #4219 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Hivemind plea:

I need a word. It may not exist. The concepts: Bloggers have the word ’blogsphere’ (sometimes ‘blogosphere’) which is the universe of all bloggers. Vonnegut came up with the term ‘karass’ referring to a group of people who (possibly unknowingly) work to some common end, an accidental/fated aggregation.

Thinking in terms – say – of all the forums/blogs/fanpages about Joss productions as a [insert word here]. I come up with remarkably lame words: ‘network’ (needs further dissertation); ‘meme-group’ (stinks up the entire room) ; meme-umbra (May the PTB forever preserve me from such utterances. Amen).

Help?


Dana - Mar 15, 2003 6:30:30 pm PST #4220 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Fandom?

Or is that too general? Um...Jossversers?


Gus - Mar 15, 2003 6:33:46 pm PST #4221 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Yeah, 'fandom' is too tight to the unifying concept. Say the ... thing ... was about politics. Ditto, 'Jossverse'. Thanks for the quick response, though.


Dana - Mar 15, 2003 6:41:36 pm PST #4222 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, I'm trying to come up with something else...I got nothing.


Elena - Mar 15, 2003 7:03:43 pm PST #4223 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

Interweb? Cyber-something?


Gus - Mar 15, 2003 7:04:21 pm PST #4224 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Thanks, Dana. There are people who can chart a picture of one (one approach :: another approach). One of them actually uses the word 'karass', but then goes on for a month explaining what it means.

Yeesh. I hate to have to stuff in a naive character or expository lump, to get this idea across. It is a real thing, in the real world. It oughta have a name.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2003 9:06:22 pm PST #4225 of 10000
brillig

Community? Hivemind (assumes too much uniformity of opinion, sorry)? pulling out the old Roget's, which has niftier words Convergence?


Gus - Mar 16, 2003 3:38:24 am PST #4226 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Thanks, Connie, Elena, Dana. It turned out -- when I finally got my head on straight -- that the reader probably didn't need to have all kinds of weird social notions added to things, to understand what was going on among some characters. The author was trying to jam a pet theory down the reader's throat. Bastard.


Lyra Jane - Mar 16, 2003 9:06:49 am PST #4227 of 10000
Up with the sun

But the key thing about a karass is that the people in one *don't* have anything major in common -- they just unwittingly serve the same goal. Granfaloon, which is a percieved karass based on commonalities, is probably closer, but it's a bit of an insult.

(signed, read Cat's Cradle about 15 times.)


deborah grabien - Mar 16, 2003 10:45:13 am PST #4228 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yup. If I remember this right - and there's a good possibility I don't, since I haven't reread Cat's Cradle in twenty years and need to, because I loved it - Granfaloon is sort of the updated version of Cloudcuckooland, in terms of insult value.