Yes, there is. There's a hurry, Xander. I'm dying...I may have as few as fifty years left.

Anya ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 9:04:56 pm PST #3966 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

It's what a magazine (or in my case, back when I was a researcher, a scholar needing or wanting some ghostwriting done) pays you in order to get out of actually publishing what you've done for them.

Generally it's a pittance. Evil prats. Worst of both worlds: you do all the work, possibly incur some expenses, and you get neither a full paycheque nor your work in print.


Consuela - Mar 06, 2003 9:25:58 pm PST #3967 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Squirrel bastards!

Does that mean you can sell it elsewhere, though?


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 06, 2003 9:30:02 pm PST #3968 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

That's where the "kill" part comes in, I believe.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 9:31:34 pm PST #3969 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yes, unless you've done something truly odd and signed something to contrary, generally in blood. In which case, you're hosed.

The first time I ever got kill-fee'd was a professor doing Elizabethan lit critique (article). Won't say who, when or what country. even now. I signed something, did two months worth of writing and research for a minimal weekly fee and the understanding that I'd get a co-credit and a big fat pub cheque.

I got dick-all. The bugger invoked the kill-fee clause and the article, without my name with damned all my work, appeared anyway.


deborah grabien - Mar 06, 2003 9:32:43 pm PST #3970 of 10000
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Rebecca, most of the kill fees I've come across are generally the EQ of a publisher taking your book out of print; after a certain time, the rights revert to you. But it really depends on the individual scenario.


Dana - Mar 06, 2003 9:39:15 pm PST #3971 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

nnnargh. Feedback? Best drug ever.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 06, 2003 9:42:22 pm PST #3972 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Rebecca, most of the kill fees I've come across are generally the EQ of a publisher taking your book out of print; after a certain time, the rights revert to you. But it really depends on the individual scenario.

OK. Half-remembering something from a seminar years ago.


Michele T. - Mar 06, 2003 9:47:25 pm PST #3973 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Although when the piece is time-sensitive, you're hosed on the resell. And generally one has to do some significant rewriting to fit a new publication anyhow.


Consuela - Mar 06, 2003 9:48:32 pm PST #3974 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Rock on, Dana. It's lovely.


esse - Mar 06, 2003 10:22:46 pm PST #3975 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Dana, you write GG that makes my mouth water.

My mom's publshed about eighteen books. She's been in the book publishing world as a writer and editor for about thirty years. Just watching her struggle so hard, and in vain, is heartbreaking. I never want to go through that. I've already gotten a book published; I'm not worried about it for the future.