Riley: Maybe I should just let you rest. Buffy: You sure? I bet if you just lay down with me- Riley: Nothing you are about to say will lead to rest.

'Lessons'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Connie Neil - Feb 11, 2003 5:02:01 pm PST #3574 of 10000
brillig

I don't get the emails, but I peek into the group occasionally. And, yes, I search from my nom de plume to see if anything of mine's been recced lately.

Yes, I am shallow.


brenda m - Feb 11, 2003 5:41:51 pm PST #3575 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think I have the site bookmarked somewhere, I may have to go check this out. Not like I have anything better to do.

Jacquelyn Mitchard had a column in the paper this weekend about how calling the shuttle astronauts and basically everyone else who dies tragically a "hero" is stripping the word of any meaning whatsoever. The last few posts brought this to mind for some reason. Heh.


Lyra Jane - Feb 11, 2003 7:07:28 pm PST #3576 of 10000
Up with the sun

calling the shuttle astronauts and basically everyone else who dies tragically a "hero" is stripping the word of any meaning whatsoever.

Yep."Hero" or "courage" should indicate choice, which is why I didn't think Bill Maher was entirely wrong when he was being pilloried after 9/11.

It's like how at one point, survivor meant someone who had been through a genuinely life-threatening experience, like a POW camp. Now anyone who's had a career lasting more than five years or gotten through a difficulty more severe than a hangnail is a survivor.


Connie Neil - Feb 11, 2003 11:32:24 pm PST #3577 of 10000
brillig

Athletes are not heroes. Athletes can be incredibly gifted, honestly humble, and sterling examples of good citizens, but there's nothing heroic about playing basketball, jumping over a vaulting horse, or hitting a baseball. Firemen and policemen and other folks who risk their lives for others are heroes.

(Hubby was a fireman, please do not lump him in with Michael Jordan. How many lives has MJ saved, hm? /end rant)


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2003 11:51:05 pm PST #3578 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

With, of course, the obvious caveat that some athletes are heroes.

And, I wonder, if I look up at someone, anyone, and see in them an example that helps me change my life for the better, does that make them a hero?


Lee - Feb 12, 2003 12:00:54 am PST #3579 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What ita said. There are many many ways people can be heroes. While fireman may be braver, I think the amount of good MJ does and the impact he can have makes him somewhat heroic too, and one should not negate the other.


brenda m - Feb 12, 2003 1:06:40 am PST #3580 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Amount of good he does for Nike or for the Vegas economy?


Lee - Feb 12, 2003 1:16:02 am PST #3581 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was thinking for Hanes, actually.


Elena - Feb 12, 2003 6:14:56 am PST #3582 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

t memememe I frequently write on the bus, then post stories with only a basic run through for grammar, punctuation, spelling, and typos. I think I've only really had three stories beta'd. Not sure what that makes me. t /memememe

Alison, I never thought that your stuff was bad. Far from it. It has always been interesting, well-written stuff. Your first drafts, as you well know, just need organisation. And they pull together beautifully.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2003 7:32:47 am PST #3583 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's also donated millions to charity.

I dunno. I don't think I've ever inspired anyone to be achieve, or change their circumstances for the better. And I don't think that should be disregarded as a positive effect on the world.

There's lots of ways to affect people.