What'd you all order a dead guy for?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


askye - Feb 11, 2003 6:59:59 am PST #3525 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I'm still reading in digest form, I think it's really weird.

I did run across this website once that was militantly B/A and didn't look like it had been updated since Season 2. Except that the email address was something like "dierileydie@whatever.com".

Their definition of "shipper" was someone who believes in Buffy and Angel forever. That's it. Just Buffy and Angel, if you don't believe in them then you aren't a true shipper.

I worry about people like that.


Dana - Feb 11, 2003 7:35:00 am PST #3526 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

My dear god, it's the "but who will protect the newbies?!?" argument. Now I really feel like a BOFQ.


amyth - Feb 11, 2003 7:36:52 am PST #3527 of 10000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Protect the newbies from...?


Dana - Feb 11, 2003 7:39:32 am PST #3528 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

From the terrible bitter people who live only to criticize the newbies' work in public and therefore crush their burgeoning talent.

I'm being flip. It's one of the enduring arguments of fandom. Do people have the right to criticize publicly-posted stories, where they should do so, what rights the author should have, "if you can't say something nice...", etc, etc.

The first big fannish meltdown I ever saw was over this topic, way back in '98.


amyth - Feb 11, 2003 7:43:14 am PST #3529 of 10000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Ah. Gotcha. Thanks.

Sorta the whole, "This is my first fic. Pleez be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thing.


P.M. Marc - Feb 11, 2003 9:02:37 am PST #3530 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

From the terrible bitter people who live only to criticize the newbies' work in public and therefore crush their burgeoning talent.

You know why I started and couldn't stop laughing? The twisty knickers person in this case, the one saying that CRIT IS BAD is the same mofo who suggested using the word "blackball".

I didn't say "please, may your rear end avoid the swinging portal as you exit". I was good.

I'm too NEW at this to feel like a BOFQ.


amyth - Feb 11, 2003 9:06:08 am PST #3531 of 10000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

I'm tempted to subscribe at this late date just to watch the train wreck in action, but it seems like an awful lot of effort to catch up at this point.


P.M. Marc - Feb 11, 2003 9:10:20 am PST #3532 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's like having the WWF or Joe Millionaire in my inbox. IFG.

The cool side effect has been that people have been rec'ing goofy ass shit, so lots of funny, funny NON Spuffy. Whee!


Lyra Jane - Feb 11, 2003 9:38:33 am PST #3533 of 10000
Up with the sun

Ya know, if you don't want something criticized, there's a real simple solution: don't publish it.

Sheesh. I don't think we can have it both ways, saying that fanfic writers are just as good as original fiction writers, but also maintaining that they're too delicate to be publicly criticized.


Micole - Feb 11, 2003 10:26:16 am PST #3534 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

It's like having the WWF or Joe Millionaire in my inbox.

Oh, okay. I'd always wondered why people watched those.