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Numero Cinco ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Anne W. - Jan 20, 2003 12:59:22 pm PST #2867 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I tend to like the painful kind of slash more than the warm/mushy slash

This reminds me of one of my slash-related peeves. I've read a fair number of stories in which the characters out themselves or are outed by others. The other characters in the story either a) reveal themselves as irrational, raging homophobes, or b) are so accepting that one suspects that they do fund-raising work for PFLAG.

One of the things I appreciated in the episode in which Willow told Buffy about Tara was that although Buffy was accepting, there was still that initial wigged-out, not-sure-what-to-say, bending-head-around-changed-perceptions awkwardness. There are also many people out there who while not exactly homophobic, would still be confused and shaken by the revelation that a friend or relative was gay. Their reactions wouldn't necessarily be negative, but neither would they be hugging the new SO and saying "call me Mom."


P.M. Marc - Jan 20, 2003 1:00:28 pm PST #2868 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is it the same sort of mushy a het guy/girl would display towards each other? Do you mind that, PMM?

It's an all-inclusive anti-mush bone. Girls, boys, puppies.

I suspect it's all those years of lumpy oatmeal.

I'm not all about the pain, either. Just more about the whole reality-of-life thing. Mushy moments are more the exception than the rule.


esse - Jan 20, 2003 1:01:12 pm PST #2869 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Hey, Am, we started fic the same way. Spike is a great entrance to it all.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2003 1:01:39 pm PST #2870 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just more about the whole reality-of-life thing. Mushy moments are more the exception than the rule.

Well, yeah, but so are the interesting moments.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 20, 2003 1:02:09 pm PST #2871 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

SA, ita, absolutely.


shrift - Jan 20, 2003 1:02:13 pm PST #2872 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Shrift, I too found that very very odd.

Which, odd that people sent him fan fiction, or that he makes such an odd leading statement about the majority of slash writers being women?

Either one baffles me.

Certainly, Mr. Pollack isn't wrong statistically when he says that the majority of slash writers are women. Most articles about fan fiction, no matter how startling their other inaccuracies, manage to get this right.

From a purely technical standpoint, if he's not going to investigate something, he shouldn't make such a point of not investigating it unless he intends to draw a lot of attention to the fact that he's not investigating it. And if he intends to draw attention to this, what's his aim in doing so?

I'm tempted to write him and bloody well ask.


Phill - Jan 20, 2003 1:03:43 pm PST #2873 of 10000
I like to talk about politics with people that agree with me, and I like high class places.

The problem i've had with so much of the slash that i've read is that the characters' sexuality is like a mary-Sue. It stomps over any plot points, characterizations, and depth that might have been there lurking behind the goga or the boba.


Connie Neil - Jan 20, 2003 1:04:59 pm PST #2874 of 10000
brillig

It's an all-inclusive anti-mush bone. Girls, boys, puppies.

t blink, blink, blink You don't get/like mushy feelings over puppies? t blink blink

Kitties? How about kitties?

t watching Plei very, very carefully


Consuela - Jan 20, 2003 1:05:37 pm PST #2875 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, I found the whole thing odd.

Ficwriters are insane, he says. But he actively encourages people to fic about him, and then posts the stories on his website.

And his comment about not investigating the phenomenon read to me as a rather backhanded way of saying "I recognize that women are into this and I'm not even going to BEGIN to speculate on why because I know that if I try I'll get my head handed to me on a platter by enraged femi-nazis and slasheristas. So I leave it up to you to figure out why women are into this. Aren't they CUTE?"


P.M. Marc - Jan 20, 2003 1:06:08 pm PST #2876 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, yeah, but the interesting moments.

See, I don't find moments of mush at all interesting, but we could be defining mush differently. Moments where people connect, yes, but that's not the same thing in my book.