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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


esse - Jan 12, 2003 2:30:53 am PST #2647 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

and I can't think of any rec'cers who notify the rec'ees.

BSO did it when they recced a couple of my stories.


Fay - Jan 12, 2003 3:10:49 am PST #2648 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It's just that I'm looking at, f'rinstance, "but we're wanking" disclaimers...

blink.

Is this literal? Or fanwanking? I could see it being used in either way, but I'm not sure how common the word "wanking" is (in its everyday UK sense) Stateside.

I don't think so, but I know that a lot more people read than send feedback, and that some writers are pretty vocal about wishing people would send more feedback in general. Then there are the feedbackers who are vocal about wishing the writers sent more thank you notes, and blah, and blah, and blah.

Wow. I can't imagine having so much self-confidence in my own work as to think that people were obliged to send me plaudits if they'd read it. Wow. But I guess I can understand the frustration, kind of. I mean, it's always lovely to get feedback, and the detailed ones that show someone is coming from the same place as you and that they really got it are wonderful. Whilst, I grant, a few over at FF net made me blink and harbour ungracious thoughts.

I should send more feedback. But I'm not reading much fic right now, what with Real Life stuff. The thing is, though, that if something is outstandignly wonderful and really touches me, then obviously I will send feedback.

Getting the occasional Rec makes me bounce and squee like a teenager.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 12, 2003 3:22:30 am PST #2649 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

The thing is, though, that if something is outstandignly wonderful and really touches me, then obviously I will send feedback.

I think the people most fanfic writers are complaining about are those who read something that really touches them, they talk about it all over the place, but they don't drop a line to the writer saying 'I really loved this.' It doesn't happen as often as some writers think it does, but it does happen, and what the writers want to be saying is 'don't be scared, I like hearing what you thought even if I've never heard of you, sending feedback isn't intrusive, and I won't bite you. Promise." This, I think, comes especially from people who find themselves BNW entierly by accident and without thier knowledge.


P.M. Marc - Jan 12, 2003 3:23:13 am PST #2650 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Eh, in the case I'm thinking of, I really don't think she was saying "send it to MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" so much as "send it when you like something".

Is this literal? Or fanwanking? I could see it being used in either way, but I'm not sure how common the word "wanking" is (in its everyday UK sense) Stateside.

Fanwank outside of here (here being Buffistas) means basically, umm... well, I'm not even sure anymore, but it did seem to be intended to point out things that seemed like a lot of pointless everyday UK sort of wanking, though not LITERALLY.


Fay - Jan 12, 2003 3:25:28 am PST #2651 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

pointless everyday UK sort of wanking

I actually bridled slightly here, and then considered it and decided there was not point in trying to defend my nation's masturbation habits, whatever they may be.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 12, 2003 3:28:43 am PST #2652 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

in the case I'm thinking of, I really don't think she was saying "send it to MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" so much as "send it when you like something".

Not making myself very clear, am I? I don't know who you're talking about (obviously) but in other places, from other people, I've heard versions of 'send feedback when you liked something' that sounded remarkably like 'someone must like my stuff and I need more feedback to convince me I'm not wasting my time here'. Which, of course, is true in some ways- we write fanfic to be enjoyed (in the first instance by ourselves, but also by others) and feedback is the only way we have of knowing that's happening.


P.M. Marc - Jan 12, 2003 3:29:16 am PST #2653 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I actually bridled slightly here, and then considered it and decided there was not point in trying to defend my nation's masturbation habits, whatever they may be.

Well, you know, I didn't mean that actual physical self-love was pointless. Just the sort of intellectual self-love that FW claims to be finding and mocking, and it would be just as pointless, per Fandom Wank, were it called Fandom Jerk-Off or Fandom Monkey Spank.


P.M. Marc - Jan 12, 2003 3:30:40 am PST #2654 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Not making myself very clear, am I? I don't know who you're talking about (obviously)

That was actually a crosspost while I was trying to answer Fay and chew gum at the same time. You said basically the same thing, but without getting into the kerfluffle specifics. (See the Fandom Wank entry with like, 200 or so comments for details.)


Fay - Jan 12, 2003 3:32:55 am PST #2655 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

wrod.

Ple, most precious and bootilicious of constellations, what time is it round your way?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 12, 2003 3:34:13 am PST #2656 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

a crosspost while I was trying to answer Fay and chew gum at the same time

Right. Not me, board and real life type confusions. We're all agreeing really.