No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2003 7:59:13 pm PST #2631 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, I know they exist, but is my perception skewed in that I don't hear of them? And I'm not counting readers, or fan artists, or filkers, really, since I consider that part and parcel of the same stuff as fanfic.

Or is my location skewed? I hear of the Tes and the Rivkas because ... well ... Dana mentioned them. I don't bump into personas of people who don't write, so much, barring someone whose name escapes me but hosted a JM site.

Are they not getting press? Am I just not reading it? Are they the support staff of fandom?


askye - Jan 11, 2003 7:59:31 pm PST #2632 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I know more about fandom and how it works, I can't say I participate more, but I lurker more places and have a better feel for it.


Kristen - Jan 11, 2003 8:04:30 pm PST #2633 of 10000

I wasn't looking for some long detailed piece of feedback, but I wasn't sure how recs worked. I mean, do you just rec something, or is it standard to let someone know that you are reccing their story?

I don't. Some people do. I think it's a personal preference thing.

I remember how chuffed I felt when I was recced , but it felt weird because she didn't send feedback.

It's understandable to think it's weird. Or even people who get a little upset or whatever by it. But what drives me crazy are the 17 page long rants about it in LJ. How reading fic is a privilege and it's your god-given responsibility to feedback and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. There's one BNF that's sort of the B-ist BNF who did that. It was this huge thing and reading it felt like I was being spanked or something. I stopped reccing that person. I also stopped liking them.


Consuela - Jan 11, 2003 8:16:57 pm PST #2634 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Or is my location skewed?

Eh. It's all context, and forum-based. I started in fandom on an analysis newsgroup, and so at the time the BNFs to me were people like Loligo and Maggie Helwig and Matt Hale and Sarah Stegall, people who posted long, thoughtful episode analyses.

But then I moved into fic, and onto mailing lists, and the names all changed. The big names in XF fic were Jill Selby and Sally&Rivka and DashaK. The big names in analysis on the mailing list I was on were Fialka and BarbaraD and Melymbrosia and Marasmus, but they were all ficwriters because it was a fic-and-analysis list.

Now my experience in fandom is mostly through this board, one discussion list I moderate, a couple of fic lists, and LJs/blogs which are mostly Farscape or former XF-folks I consider personal friends. My concept of BNF is going to depend on how I know them, whether lots of people link to them or comment on their LJ/blog, or how often they end up in COMM. *g*

I posted an XF fic recently to all the standard places. At one point I was, maybe not a BNF, but a MNF in XF fic. Now? NSM. Context is everything, forum is everything, and history is very very short.


Michele T. - Jan 11, 2003 8:17:49 pm PST #2635 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

not a BNF, but a MNF in XF fic. Now? NSM

Whoa, I just went in to acronym overload. Call the EMTs!


Consuela - Jan 11, 2003 8:18:20 pm PST #2636 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Heh.


P.M. Marc - Jan 11, 2003 9:05:23 pm PST #2637 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I live in terror of becoming a MNF.

I'm a happy SNF, but I've seen myself quoted, so, fear.


Consuela - Jan 11, 2003 9:16:27 pm PST #2638 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And yet you're a BNF amongst the Buffistas. See?

I mean, BNF just means people in a certain community recognize your name. Could mean people agree with you, but doesn't have to.

It's all very odd.


P.M. Marc - Jan 11, 2003 9:19:12 pm PST #2639 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

And yet you're a BNF amongst the Buffistas. See?

UNDO IT! UNDO IT!

Yeah, I'm aware of that. It's because I talk too much. And I was the equiv. of a BNF in the early 90s insular Seattle BBS scene, at least in a particular subsection of it, because I was active in the community, went to GTs, ran boards, and was always online.

I mean, BNF just means people in a certain community recognize your name. Could mean people agree with you, but doesn't have to.

Yerp. It's very silly.


askye - Jan 11, 2003 9:23:15 pm PST #2640 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

The Road Rules/Real World Battle of the Sexes is pretty much what happens when you throw Big Name and Little Name and No Name women together.

Jesus, talk about back stabbing and pack mentality. They were already jumping on each other and trying to tear each other's throats out, and then turning around with pretty smiles on their faces. Lots of behind the back stuff.

On the guys side there was the one huge major blow out, but other than that the guys seem to get along.

With the women it's a bunch of small petty stuff and you can see the allegiances forming and lots of "your my friend and you don't like HER so I hate HER too." happening.