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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Fay - Dec 23, 2002 9:49:36 am PST #1934 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

For the love of Mike.

t /gobsmacked.

Why would anyone do that? Why? I just - my mind is so far over the horizon into Boggleville that it may never be seen again. This I just do not get.

....nope, still boggled.

You know, I'm actually still fairly squicked by cut'n'paste photomanips as a concept. Which I can't account for, really, because logically it's not that different from appropriating an image and giving it suggestive text to accompany it. Or from writing the hot fictional character sex, or any form of RPF, sexual or otherwise. It's all boundary crossing of one sort or another. But the cut'n'paste faces onto shagging bodies - I do find this messes with my comfort zones. Even though I can appreciate the artistry and hotness.

None of which has any bearing on the breathtaking stupidity & rudeness of showing somebody photomanips of themselves having The Sex. I mean - hello? Earth to crazy-ass fan?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 23, 2002 9:52:02 am PST #1935 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I will be one pissed-off girl.

And I will be another.


Anne W. - Dec 23, 2002 10:09:35 am PST #1936 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

FayJay, I pretty much agree with you about the photo manipulations. The ones that are PG-13 or tamer are fine, but anything that is a hard R or above I find troublesome. Still photographs, to me, are more about the actor than the character, except in cases where makeup/costuming make it impossible to identify the actual human being.

Written fanfic is more about the characters, and the fact that it is not visual actually takes things one step further away from the actors who play the character. In other words, Alan Bates exists as the actor Alan Bates. I may also have an image in my mind of Hamlet as played by Alan Bates. Thirdly, there is Hamlet the character, who exists independently of any actor (or actress) who plays him. It is a bit different with TV fanfic, as a character is traditionally played by only one actor or actress, but I hope my point is reasonably clear.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 23, 2002 10:20:11 am PST #1937 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I said I'd post it here:

embitca on what we said yesterday.

And as I was getting dressed this morning and talking to myself I wrote seven pages' worth of posts in my head, but now I'm doing a concentration-heavy printing project for my sister and it's all flown away.

(I'ma just going to say that what I said there was slightly in shorthand-- I find the impulse to RPF shiny in the situation of a chance to be taking an active position and working back against the mass-market media, etc, etc.

& I think I can articulate why popstar fic can feel less uncomfortable than actorfic; I said it all out, and I think it makes sense to me; but I'm sleepy. And need to finish this project.)


Dana - Dec 23, 2002 10:22:33 am PST #1938 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Christ in hell, if we get linked to fandom_wank, that's really going to ruin my day.


Consuela - Dec 23, 2002 10:23:06 am PST #1939 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oy, Dana!

No fandom-wank please! Please!


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2002 10:23:49 am PST #1940 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

C'est quoi, cet fandom_wank ca?


Dana - Dec 23, 2002 10:24:12 am PST #1941 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I swear to god, I should know when to just stop reading.

Also makes me glad I didn't participate in the discussion this time around, since being called puritanical tends to make me snarl. Just a little.


Dana - Dec 23, 2002 10:24:39 am PST #1942 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

fandom_wank is a livejournal for discussion (and from the few times I've visited, mocking) of meta-discussion.


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2002 10:24:59 am PST #1943 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh. Ouch.