Gunn: You saying popping mama threw you a beating? Lorne: Kid Vicious did the heavy lifting. Cordy just mwah-ha-ha'd at us.

'Underneath'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2002 7:08:36 pm PST #1813 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I tried reading one of those RPFs, but it's really hard to do with your eyes mostly closed so I gave up. I think my squick cuts in SO fast that I can't go anywhere with it -- most subject matter squicks can sneak up on you, or appear after you're already hooked by style, or preceding content, or something.

My poor brain just screams "THAT'S BILLY BOYD!!!" and I can't see a damned thing else.


Fay - Dec 21, 2002 7:09:26 pm PST #1814 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Which I wholly respect.


Elena - Dec 21, 2002 7:17:34 pm PST #1815 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

The paragraph is delicious; but why does it have to be written about a real person? Is it less delicious if it's being written about, say, Lex? Or an original fictional character?


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 21, 2002 8:03:28 pm PST #1816 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Huh. Yes. It's true. I didn't look at those sites yet, because I'm on the other computer and don't want to take notes if I can't save them directly to the hard drive; but that snippet

He likes lollipops. They just - they're *comfortable*, and he likes rubbing his tongue against the sharp sugar edges, pushing it into the little razorblade air bubbles to touch the unwarmed crevices inside. This one's cola, and tastes as tacky and July-ish as blackjacks or ginger beer.

is lovely like a lovely, lovely thing, even context-less like that; and when I consider it being supposedly from inside Lex's head, my brain goes ooh, and when I consider it being supposedly from inside Orlando Bloom's head, my brain slams back down. Yes. This is very interesting.

The paragraph is delicious; but why does it have to be written about a real person? Is it less delicious if it's being written about, say, Lex? Or an original fictional character?

Well, I think a better question to ask is, what *makes* there be a difference between real-people characters and fictional-people characters? And, for that matter, your-original-fiction characters and someone-else's-fiction characters? I think I can articulate reasons *why* I've got these blocks in place.


Katie M - Dec 21, 2002 8:06:13 pm PST #1817 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Well, for me, on some level every writer's got the same right to decide what's inside Lex's head. (I know there are arguments to be made there as well - I'm less comfortable with fanfic about single-author creations, for instance - but you take my point.) There isn't a right answer. No one knows how Lex feels about lollipops, because Lex isn't real. Once you're writing about someone who you know actually exists, there *is* a right answer.


Elena - Dec 21, 2002 8:38:45 pm PST #1818 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

That's a good point, Katie. I seem to be following you around saying that. Real people have real feelings and thoughts and relationships. And, I'm groping around trying to articulate this, it somehow diminishes them to attribute feelings and thoughts and relationships to them, that they haven't had. It's like being misquoted on a massive scale.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2002 8:41:21 pm PST #1819 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Katie and Elena are speaking for me. In a non RPF way, that is.


Elena - Dec 21, 2002 8:42:33 pm PST #1820 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

Though, of course, my having secret relationships with them is okay.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 21, 2002 9:39:45 pm PST #1821 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

But thank you, Fay, for sending me back to waxjism.net, where the best shit is, because I'm halfway through [link] and reeling with the hot, and the good writing, and the hot, and the hot. It's The Faculty fic-- I'm coming to it as though it was original, though, because I've got absolutely *no* idea about the premise of TF or anything.

[edited several an hour later because I realized there were random letters missing from this post]


P.M. Marc - Dec 21, 2002 10:28:58 pm PST #1822 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I need some Buffyverse recs. Argh!

Too much kind-of-eh being recc'd all over the place. I would like to read something where I don't feel like doing a line beta and pointing out canon errors and characterization flaws, thank you very much.