This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Nov 30, 2002 10:24:31 am PST #1010 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I haven't read much HP, but I imagine that disclaiming to J.K. Rowling is enough- she still owns the rights, even if they've made a film. For Star wars, all disclaimers need to mention George Lucas, at least.

Intresting article- I was a bit disconcerted by 'fanfiction.net have banned slash' until I realised he meant NC-17, not m/m.


Nutty - Nov 30, 2002 10:39:46 am PST #1011 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Although, realistically speaking, isn't a broad disclaimer better -- well, as far as the legality of a disclaimer is worth anything -- rather than a narrow one?

"No hedgehogs were harmed in the making of this production" means that they might have been slaughtering badgers wholesale, but "no animals..." is nice and complete.

Then again, my disclaimers tend to run to "If I owned the intellectual property herein, I would have millions of dollars and not be uploading from a 56K connection."

All about the contrary-to-fact, yo.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Nov 30, 2002 10:41:49 am PST #1012 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Broad is probably better, yes- but for Tolkien, you tend to disclaim to him, and not worry about, say, Peter Jackson. That's what I based it on.


amych - Nov 30, 2002 10:44:07 am PST #1013 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

With books, the authors generally own their copyrights -- Rowling or Tolkein should do it in those cases. It's more complicated with TV and movies, where the intellectual property usually belongs to the corporation.


Rebecca Lizard - Nov 30, 2002 10:45:58 am PST #1014 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

The characters and universe of Dreamwalk Blue are the property of J.K. Rowling, Bloomsbury Publishing, Scholastic, Inc. and AOL/Time Warner, Inc. This writing does not intend to infringe upon copyright or trademark.

The characters and universe of Iteration are the property of George Lucas, Lucasfilm, Ltd and Saban Entertainment. This writing does not intend to infringe upon copyright or trademark.

The characters and universe of more like LA are the property of Joss Whedon, Warner Brothers Network, 20th Century Fox, Mutant Enemy, Sandollar, Kuzui, and Greenwolf Productions. This writing does not intend to infringe upon copyright or trademark.

Does that sound right?

I love Google.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Nov 30, 2002 10:51:42 am PST #1015 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

That looks fine, RL. Kisses for Google!


esse - Nov 30, 2002 2:07:59 pm PST #1016 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I thought the article was better than most.

And I might get flak for this, but...

The Road Home
by Meredith Lynne (inspired by Smallville)

from the article seems like something of an advertisement. If she doesn't want her fiction easily accesible by the masses, why put it up in an article that can be read by said masses?

This, of course, is assuming she meant for it to be on there.

But damn, that seems so hypocritical.


Katie M - Nov 30, 2002 2:21:42 pm PST #1017 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Argh. Author of the article persists in getting things wrong -- although I think I'll have to give him a pass, considering members of fandom sometimes get the same things wrong.

It wasn't actually that bad, I don't think, beyond the obsession with porn. So very tired of the assumption that it's All Porn. (I mean, I like porn, don't get me wrong, but my tastes run much more strongly genward and there really is quite a lot of it out there too...)


shrift - Nov 30, 2002 6:01:52 pm PST #1018 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

This, of course, is assuming she meant for it to be on there.

I don't know -- I don't think the author of the piece would need to contact an author before mentioning something she's written. I've had my pseud and/or sites thrown into articles about fanfic without my knowledge or permission.

It wasn't actually that bad, I don't think, beyond the obsession with porn.

See, that's the thing -- even when it's a good article that doesn't make us out to be really big losers with too much time on our hands, there's still a troublesome conflation.

It's tantamount to saying all movies are porn just because some movies happen to be porn. Not, of course, that I think there's anything wrong with porn. Porn is great! I simply think it's ridiculous to refer to all movies as porn when all it takes to debunk that statement would be to convince the article's author to walk out of the adult movie section of the rental place. To, you know, where all the other movies are.


Vonnie K - Nov 30, 2002 6:21:52 pm PST #1019 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I'm with Katie here. I think it's reasonably fair article, errors and all, with minimal condescension compared to most other articles on fanfiction. I just wish the emphasis wasn't quite *entirely* on erotic fanficion, because I'm personally more inclined to gen and frankly rather fed up with the 'if there's no sex in the story, what's the point?' contingent.

Still, a decent article.